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No real sources but hn comments, but hey if the river sounds..

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

The NSA/CIA are just too good at hijacking swiss -neutral- companies for their own bidding

A circular reference to baseless conjecture is not a source.

Thus why I said not a source?

Agreed. I'll look for where I read this... Maybe it was just a paranoid loon on the internet but for some reason I shelved it mentally as trustworthy... Bah don't trust me

I guess you are referring to Crypto AG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG

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