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New talking therapy for depression could be more effective and cheaper than CBT

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15 pointsPaulHoule9 comments

I’m no longer sold on talk therapy. And I recently discovered other modalities that significantly moved the needle for me.

As someone who spent 5+ years in talk therapy, I’ve been getting DBT (dialectical behavior therapy) treatment for about 4 months and god damn am I grateful for both the individual and group therapy. DBT skill based: it’s not only “talking about your feelings.” Concrete skills are learned. There’s homework prescribed.

DBT — full model — has taught me how to 1) regulate my emotions 2) apply distress tolerance skills for when I’ve breached my threshold

Another modality that’s really piqued my interest is IFS.

Those are literally all talk therapy models..so I think you're still sold on it!

Cbt, dbt, ifs, all forms of talk therapy..

But DBT is talk therapy. I'm not familiar with IFS. DBT is still talk therapy while perhaps having a more active aspect to it as well. I can see how that would be more successful for some folks for sure!

I think studies like this should be less targeted to schools of therapy (like CBT vs ADepT), and more toward looking at the effectiveness of concrete practices like describing thought patterns, talking about dreams, doing written exercises about thought patterns, etc.

Terms like CBT are very broad and every CBT based therapist does things somewhat differently so comparing CBT as a whole seems to make less sense in my mind

"Results suggested that ADepT was definitely not worse than, and showed potential to be better than, CBT at building well-being and reducing depression at the end of treatment and over longer-term follow-up."

Does this sentence sound messed up to anyone else?

I'd rewrite that into a few sentences, because it's glued 4 binaries together.

The researchers evaluated effectiveness of ADepT versus CBT, looking at both building well-being and reducing depression. The evaluation measured effectiveness at the end of treatment, and over longer-term follow-up. The results indicate that ADepT was definitely not worse than CBT, and has the potential to be better.

Discovering spirituality, practicing meditation, having a reasonable weed consumption and strict exercise regiment work best to keep my depression in check.

Though honestly, living in a nonsensical consumerist system driven by late stage capitalism is the root cause for my depression and until that changes, everything else is just a bandaid.

Personally, I’m glad I jumped right into going to a Ayahuasca retreat to kickstart the emotional and spiritual side of things with my own healing journey. Cannabis is no longer appealing, and it actually feels a little numbing, and would prefer occasional mushroom trips to delve in deep.

It helps that the purging and perhaps the MAOI in Ayahuasca seem to have immediate effects after.

Namespaces matter.

When I saw "CBT" the first definition was not "cognitive behavioral therapy" (NSFW) https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=CBT

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