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Why does everybody focus on "how will this replace humans?" It's just a really good text-to-speech.

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Because it will replace humans, and that's worth thinking about?

Maybe because I no longer hear friendly human voices on train stations, rather computer generated train announcements?

While those people are now looking for jobs elsewhere.

Fantastic! That's a massive efficency gain.

We will not run out of productive things to do with our time. Labor force participation has stayed in 60-70% despite centuries of automation.

Lovely capitalism.

Announcements often get played repeatedly -- "Train 101 to Lisbon is now on track 5". Why do you want to torture station's workers with that?

Instead, make an effort to start a conversation with your fellow travelers, or graciously respond to such effort from them. Apologize if you already do.

Better a tortured job that puts food on the table than none at all.

tell that to the kids in Nike sweat shops

Their family appreciate.

As do everyone that buys Nike.

Taken to its conclusion, doesn't this just mean we should outlaw all forms of mechanization in order to preserve human jobs as much as possible? Would this be better for a country than just allocating a portion of the economy's output and using it to provide social safety nets?

Since you mention it, there was some news a while back of some African countries not using construction machines to build roads on purpose, as means to foster more jobs.

Likewise in many countries, having someone at the gas station to fill in the tank is still a job, and most likely even with EV they would be the ones taking care of the charging.

At the beginning of the 20th century in the US, 3 in 4 workers were either laborers, farmers, miners, or household service workers. By the end of the century that number had fallen to 1 in 4.

Of course that wasn't a net loss, it was part a larger economic transformation that created more higher paying jobs.

Looking at the employment rate across US doesn't look like it.

Specially the people living from paycheck to paycheck, without any kind of healthcare support.

Personally I can't wait for all the streets to be lined with the homeless like in SF. So good.

It's kinda sad to see you believe that this is the inevitable outcome.

Well, if we imagine that the only thing that will be left are physical jobs that can't be done by computers.

At least until they get clever enough to start a transformers line factory.

This is the lump of labor fallacy. It's not about "what jobs will be left", it's about the new jobs we'll invent with all the time we'll have on our hands.

There was never a fixed number of jobs, there's a fixed number of workers.

Well, we can also return to feudalism.

I didn't think you understand. We aren't about to automate all things humans can "currently" do. We are about to automate everything that separates us from a brick. What can possibly be left, and why would an unemployed person pay for whatever what is left?

> There was never a fixed number of jobs, there's a fixed number of workers.

Isn’t this the ‘problem’ that AI is trying to solve?

The nature of the jobs change too though. Do you believe jobs will become more or less skilled/autonomous and connect people more or less with their fellow man? Some of us are pessimistic about those questions.

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