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Agree. Recently, my favorite childhood imageboard (711chan.net) came back online, and I was pleasantly surprised to see they offer the site via Tor, including using the Onion-Location header to make the browser aware of this fact.

Interestingly, they allow Tor users to post. It's an anonymous imageboard with no CAPTCHA, so I'm not sure how they intend to address spam this way.

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It's an image board? I've been told that it's a really bad idea to allow image uploads from Tor at all, at least without the requirement of having an account that can be wiped out all at once. I think there was an idea to let Tor users pick from a standard palette of images, but be prevented from uploading their own.

>Interestingly, they allow Tor users to post. It's an anonymous imageboard with no CAPTCHA, so I'm not sure how they intend to address spam this way.

Other sites use proof of work here

> 711chan.net

Any time I see these chan sites, it kind of stuns me about how racist they are relative to anything else on the internet.

Doesn't seem worse than Reddit or Facebook to me. Heck, even though it isn't as obvious the amount of negativity on HN about everything Chinese is basically the same racism, just written in ways to avoid getting removed.

Did you visit the site? They have multiple boards on the sidebar that are explicitly dedicated to racism. One of them is just named “[Nig]s”. There’s a picture in the sean one with a 1488 behind pixel black people.

I cant be racist - some of my best friends are blacks.

It's not websites, it's people. Freedom of speech + anonymity just allow people showing who they really are.

I think it’s more like that these boards attract a specific type of person, not people in general. People generally don’t like racists because they’re also generally awful people as well. That’s why they’re banned off of most of the internet and the real world.

>People generally don’t like racists because they’re also generally awful people as well

Can't resonate. In my part of the world, people are generally racist.

The way online racists act is very different from general racism irl. It’s a much more hateful form and seems a bit more all over the place. They won’t just hate one ethnic group, they’ll hate everything and everyone that isn’t exactly like them.

> People generally don’t like racists because they’re also generally awful people as well

People are generally awful people as well.

Most people are either pleasant or neutral irl. There are no consequences for what you say online so people tend to be their worst on the internet. If people were generally awful, we wouldn't have any form of society anywhere in the world.

Anonymity also makes it really easy to simulate something if you want to imply something about human nature. Thats luckily something that is fixable client side. Just be less gullible.

Keep in mind that much of that is a constant struggle between moderating and Zersetzung. If somebody doesnt like free discourse, all they have to do is increase the moderation burden for such sites. Knowing full well, that the more rules you have and try to enforce, the more of an echochamber you become.

Still beats the toxic effects of curating identities in an social media echochamber. Dedicated boards also work as plumbing on chans.

edit: Totalitarians are also not shy about employing Zersetzung. For example, the CREST Research ("Mining the Chans") people are very open about attacking chans through AI generated garbage/extremism content to make them unusable. So chances are high that this is what you are seeing and reacting to.

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