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Am still in Microsoft, was part of that transition and can confirm it.

We did move stuff we could to other git repos inside Microsoft.

SourceDepot is still running for some stuff and is still awful but git is working great.

> Also, they have about 10k people working on Windows (and devices) and about 10k people working on ads nowadays (that paints a good story of priorities).

I'm not sure I'm privvy to all information but looking at the org chart this part is false. The ads org is much much smaller than E+D.

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If you have a moment, a tangential question. A little while ago I read a very interesting comment responding to some general "why is this and that broken [in Windows]", that said

> Windows is only $5m a year

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34934946

I was very impressed to determine that was only $416k/mo. Since I read that I've been like "that can't be right." (There's certainly no qualification of scope to work with.) That's roughly 15-20 (~$250k-$333k) senior developer salaries.

I'm very curious how and where Windows practically fits into the pie chart nowadays, mostly just from the perspective of a passively curious person who likes to file away watermarks and yardsticks :)

There's probably some perfectly externally-facing info out there under a rock I'm not sure where to look for...

I'm just a software engineer working for Microsoft and I'm on HN since I worked on 3 startups (one YC funded) and do a ton of open source (in my free time, Microsoft funds none of it).

I enjoy working for Microsoft (mostly) but I have _no idea_ how our sales looks like.

Appreciate the reply.

I would take that with a serious grain of salt. The kernel is also in the Xbox, the headset, the azure deployments in some form, the server os, etc. There are easy three other divisions neck deep in the funding of the kernel.

Very good point. It did seem a bit disjointed.

> I'm not sure I'm privvy to all information but looking at the org chart this part is false. The ads org is much much smaller than E+D.

Look at Panos' org and compare to the WebXT org (both under E+D).

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