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Disruptive protest helps rather than hinders activists’ cause, experts say

theguardian.com

12 pointskitkat_new9 comments

I think most people tend to simply put themselves wherever they think the "middle" is of any political issue. The "middle" being whatever they think the middle of their "in-group" thinks. Out-group's opinion doesn't matter. Seeing people push the boundaries on one side moves the middle slightly closer to that side.

This philosophy keeps the middle where it is but causes the extremes to get wider as both sides attempt the same method.

Newton's Third Law trumps the Overton Window.

unless one side has already been overcome in the past, thus, is ignored

"(78%) of Britons think disruptive protest hinders activists’ causes". By that measure, they are not effective. What really helps any protest succeed is numbers. You have to be too big to ignore. That's not going to happen when the majority of people are opposed to your methods.

> You have to be too big to ignore. That's not going to happen when the majority of people are opposed to your methods.

yet they are too big to ignore, obviously

Unless you are a small business owner.

I'm also positive dishing out the death penalty for petty theft would reduce crime in the long run.

Stop using the end to justify the means. This isn't moral and isn't right.

> This isn't moral and isn't right.

Why not?

This "person" in the same comment claims property damage to small business is such a tragedy and the death penalty should be used for petty crime.

I don't think their "morals" are worth understanding in the slightest.

These statements display a fundamental ignorance of morality, the role of criminal justice systems, research, the role of the state, the real current systems in place. To even begin a conversation with this person would require several sources demonstrating how their premises are all wrong and through experience this person will not engage in any of these sources.

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