Meta scraping your name and doing other shenanigans is a different subject and obviously bad, but the rest is like complaining joining a public torrent tracker and being mad about leaking your ip address to its peers.
Meta scraping your name and doing other shenanigans is a different subject and obviously bad, but the rest is like complaining joining a public torrent tracker and being mad about leaking your ip address to its peers.
Systemic data collection and casual access aren’t equal.
That said, on these protocols you can’t control it anyway, so it’s not like you can stop it.
They could have been scraping it for years (if they cared) and you’d never know.
Federating won’t give them anything new except DMs to their users since those aren’t encrypted.
All the existing stuff you’ve posted publicly is already public.
Meta will find a way to get their hands on that.
If being separated from the mainstream internet is the reasoning then yeah sure, go ahead, but you also can't complain why no one besides fanatics is using alternatives when the alternatives are not worth using for the mainstream audience.
I see the situation as similar
It’s just Mastodon movement or whatever it calls itself don’t want to be associated with shady corners of lower classes or the human society, despite there shouldn’t be such classes and hidden areas in the first place, as in not trying to stigmatize, deny and nullify the fact that we’re dirty animals, but in constructively removing negative aspects of life.
Please ignore the people who die and are harmed in the process.
It is anti-privacy by design.
Once you've posted something to it, you have absolutely no control over who has that data and what they do with it. That's the fundamental design of the system.
Complaining about meta potentially ingesting all data from the fediverse comes off as a bit naive. Meta is the least of the privacy concerns on the fediverse. You at least know who they are and have legal recourse against them. Huge numbers of other consumers are not even known. Just look at the thousands of instances that have popped up. Many of which are just in joe bob's closet and god only knows how they protect the data.
Welcome to the Internet. It’s always been like that.
but if I'm posting to facebook/twitter, I have privacy settings that they legally have to adhere to. Of course this doesn't prevent all scraping/copying/whatnot/whathaveyou, but it's a lot harder to scrape a private profile than something on the fediverse. Most of these sites have a vested interest in preventing scraping and the like. I have some control even if it's not great.
Fediverse I don't even have an idea off where my data is much less what their security/privacy practices are.
I think we might need to be better about communicating this to new users: once something leaves the server, it is out of control.
ActivityPub, and Mastodon in particular, is very public-oriented though yeah. The feature-set and discovery stuff is pretty much inherently un-protectable.