He was good with cars, Mars, internet for the masses. Why???
If I could be in charge of, or do real meaningful engineering, why go social media mogul after that; it’s downward and it is lame. So I draw the above conclusions; he went mental with power.
[0] If you can get into leadership before people find out you're a narcissist, of course.
[1] No, I don't know for certain if Musk is a narcissist
One of Musk's visions is "X, the everything app", like Chinese WeChat.
An everything app needs social network and messaging to drive adoption.
He was not good with cars, he forced himself into a leadership role at Tesla, made changes that ran over budget, then blamed it on the real founder (Martin Eberhard) and engaged a hostile takeover. Then he violated contract by not giving him the first produced Tesla, keeping it for himself, and instead giving away the second which broke shortly after. Also his employees there all avoid him because he randomly fires underlings in fits of rage.
Tesla autonomous vehicles have always been far behind their competition, he got some guy straight out of college to lead the work, claimed that they first have to solve full sentient AI (???) before cars can drive themselves, and now that fresh grad is working at Apple or something.
I'm not going to talk about the horrendous injustice of his investor fraud for Solar City or his numerous OSHA violations or the time he lied about sleeping in a Tesla factory for a year.
SpaceX has repeatedly failed to deliver on contracts with NASA so they can pursue the UNGODLY STUPID Starship project and idiotic point to point rocket launch projects. Elon claims he'll convert Ocean oil rigs into rocket launch pads which is an impossibly dumb idea (is he trolling us??), and he fires rockets in Boca Chica at a scale he is NOT authorized to do at times he is NOT authorized to do, and has actually ruined many of the locals' lives. They literally had to evacuate their homes. His failed launches also have burned down wildlife preserves home to critically endangered cats and turtles. SpaceX employees wrote an open letter begging him to stop bullshitting about what their real work is, and he fired everyone who signed it.
Also he still hasn't delivered the sex robots he promised me. What the hell, Elon?
Iirc all but one of the scientists working on Neuralink have left because he kept lying about their work and treating them very poorly. He claimed the end goal is to play Star Craft??
But worst of all, in one interview he was asked if he prefers Emacs or Vim. He fumbled over his words for awhile and obviously didn't know anything about either of them, but he did understand that tech literate people are supposed to have an opinion on this, so eventually he managed to say it probably doesn't matter or something. Obviously Emacs is the far superior choice, shame on you Elon.
Vscode and Visual Studio are obviously the answer.
This is generally a true statement, and all of your criticism of his companies is accurate.
But what I find hilarious is that HN nearly universally carried his water until The Ukraine Tweet. This site was a unanimous Elon fanboy club right up until the moment he disagreed with CIA talking points.
Nothing changed about him, his behavior, or his companies. He's always engaged in some degree of charlatanism and he's always been a prolific shitposter on twitter dot com. HN ate it up.
Until that fateful day when he had the temerity to suggest that maybe NATO expansionism wasn't the best idea, and that we shouldn't risk nuclear war.
From that point forward, he became the HN enemy, and precisely the same comments that would have been flagged previously, were highly upvoted.
Funny how political tribalism still works amongst the 130 IQ crowd.
- Your claim about Tesla's autonomous vehicles lagging behind competition appears misinformed. From what I understand, Tesla's self-driving technology, which does not rely on high-definition maps, is far advanced compared to most companies in the same space. Moreover, the self-driving team, led by Karpathy and now Ashok, are highly competent individuals.
- To suggest that SpaceX hasn't been successful or valuable to NASA is just wrong. You label the Starship project as 'dumb,' but isn't it a more cost-effective way to launch larger payloads into space? I'm curious if you had similar thoughts when the Falcon 9 was announced? Today, it delivers over double the tons to orbit compared to all other organizations combined.
- Regarding the open letter signed by SpaceX employees, less than 3% of the workforce supported it. The letter primarily critiqued Musk's Twitter activity, which is unrelated to his employees' professional roles and contributions.
- On the subject of the promised 'Tesla bots,' they appear to be progressing at a considerable pace, as evidenced by the following link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiQkeWOFwmk.
- With Neuralink, the ultimate objective is to integrate human brains with AI. More immediate goals include improving the quality of life for individuals suffering from conditions such as blindness or paralysis.
- Assessments of Musk's technical and engineering aptitude appear more convincing when coming from sources like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/k1e0ta/eviden...
I sense a bit of humor in your comment, but I still wanted to clear up a few things. These inconsistencies make me think twice about the other points you're making.
8 years ago, wasn't Musk doing this with OpenAI?
https://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/elon-musk-appea...
Most people are not especially disciplined in interpreting historical realities through the lens of the day. The result is that we form anachronistic and sloppy views of the past. Take, for example, women's suffrage. If we view the pre-suffrage US through the lens of the radical individualism we embrace today, then we more easily conclude, that 19th century America was a "woman-hating" land and all the usual polemic. But if you interpret the vote as one vote per family, then things start to look differently. The family, and not the individual, taken as the basic unit of society as has almost always been the case, with the husband/father as head and representative of his family and its good in society, becomes the natural voting entity. Maybe you don't like that, or think it needs some exceptions, but logically, this basic idea is coherent and it makes sense.
Now, even if you think Musk's views deserve criticism, you can, at least, appreciate the idea, especially in light of what he's said about demographic collapse and the tendency of parents to be more future- and other-oriented--given that their children will need to live in that future--than atomized individuals, who have a greater tendency to live only in a self-indulgent now (celebrated, unsurprisingly, by New Age). You can expect parents with children to vote in ways that prioritize long-term good in a way that atomized individuals would not. It's harder to not give a shit about where things are headed when you have children.
It's important not to let your sensibilities and biases get in the way of the truth, or to confuse sensibilities with reason.
If all of those things are outside the frame, sure, one-vote-per-household can be made to make sense. However, don't expect others to agree to your restrictive agenda-driven narratives.
Our modern society is radically oriented towards the individual, and not the family. That does bias our view of how good or bad a previously family-oriented society was.
It’s hard to fully quantify the long-term implications of that change.
There is no reason to think that a single marriage is the best format, other than it happens to work well within the framework we've built up to support it over the last few hundred or few thousand years in specific countries. So the individual is it, because it's common to all.
I think humans are past pure reproduction as a basis for society. The primary thing that humans leave behind is contribution to culture. I don't necessarily mean the capital-C Culture, though that can be it. A contribution to the lives of those around you, related or not. On a local scale I have known people without children who are absolutely treasured by the community and their loss has been felt greatly when they go. Sometimes they have buildings or rooms in a building named after them. On a larger scale, our history books are full of people who were childless. Isaac Newton was. I don't think this is isolating. I think you have full buy in to the future, with or without children. But you have to choose it.
On the flipside, I have a father in law, who is a pretty nice guy in general. He's still happily married and appears to love his kids. When asked if he was willing to fly less than 5 international vacations per year because, you know, climate change is serious and he has a grandkid... his answer was a very serious "What do I care? I'll be dead."
If you're not getting service to the community or belief in a future beyond yourself, perhaps the problem isn't marriage or your concept of individualism. Maybe it's telling people they aren't worth anything, or their contributions don't matter. Telling single people they can't vote isn't going to help that.
But most people are fascist at some level if the definition is simply diminishing democracy.
Wouldn't be surprised if he is also microdosing LSD, it is quite popular right now in high-tech circles (see: https://www.wsj.com/articles/silicon-valley-microdosing-keta... ), but I don't think someone has accused him of that yet.
Stuff I have seen:
- LSD usage is pretty common relative to where I grew up (midwest-ish), but usually rare (once a year, burning man, someone has tried it once) even so, I'd still guess this is a pretty small minority - I guess 15% max? I'd guess mostly this is curiosity driven, reading about it, etc. I've never seen anyone seriously use it as a productivity drug.
- Adderall is more common, but that's because it's prescribed (and it works well so everyone thinks they have ADHD if they take it) - I haven't seen it abused, I've heard people talk about modafinil but have never met anyone that was actually taking it. Even in the adderall/adhd case, I'd guess 20% max? Most people I work with do not take it.
- Ketamine I don't know anyone that's tried it beyond someone in the therapy trials and non-techie druggie types.
Maybe it's more common and I'm not in the right circles, but I don't really buy it. I think it's rare and elevated by articles like this because it's salacious not because it's common. I'd guess my made up percentages are also too high.
There's strong selection bias with drug use because drug users tend to cluster together, I suspect it's a lot less common than people think.
Demand is not what the weed industry thought it would be.[1]
[1] https://www.foodengineeringmag.com/articles/99944-price-per-...
They’re shitty before the drugs too.
Δ Shittyness = IS x drug amount x duration
Sometimes people get off illegal drugs and become decent again, but
Net Shittyness (NS) = IS + Decency
Some drugs remove the Decency filter such that NS = IS. If a person knows they have a high IS, and that, say, alcohol temporarily lets that show through, and they care about their perceived NS, then it behooves them to stay away from it.