What actually happens is people often just come back to TrueBlue - like when Paul Graham left Twitter: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1604556563338887168.
EDIT: I guess this begs the question then, how do you break the cycle? Do you just stay trapped in one walled garden despite it getting much worse, or do decentralised platforms offer temporary/permanent respite?
Apparently the YC lawyers are convinced that the current mechanism is GDPR compliant, I'm not so sure about that.
If this forum had any kind of paid offerings this might differ, but what do you want, them to block the whole EU a la Threads/Bard?
As I understand it, this is due to the limitations of current (mod) tools, and justification just means you have to provide a human for some good reason to do -free work- for you. Like fearing being doxxed or whatever.
I dunno, I'm a happy member of this forum and I appreciate dang and how the moderation works here, it could be better and automated but this is a small niche tech forum after all and not some giant social media network
That's not how the GDPR works. The GDPR does not kick in when there is a commercial transaction, it kicks in when you're talking about data, specifically data provided by EU subjects.
YMMV
No countries are forced, just corporate entities in those countries that aim to transact with EU citizens. And that's perfectly fine, lots of countries have laws like that on their books and ways to enforce them. The only people that tend to object are those that are part of the group that wishes to trample on the rights of the people whose data they collect.
They will go even to great lengths to make European founders register as LLC's in Murica too, Investors security yadda yadda
I don't see how that translates to doing business in europe tbh
And so for you to want to utilise a finite resource (moderation time) for something that should benefit you, you better have a good reason for it?
Why should companies go above and beyond to comply with laws that don't affect their country or business doings?
The only reason a US company might comply with EU directives, is if they plan to do business in the EU, not if they're storing data or not from an European citizen
Still, here I am with a new account…
- Change your account email.
- Change HN password with password generator (don't' record it)
- Log out.
That’s what I did when I stopped using Facebook years ago. Deleted my account completely. All data gone. Profile gone.
If he had deleted his Twitter account then all followers would be gone and there wouldn’t be so much point in coming back.
In some cases even deleting your account is not enough. For example I recently deleted my Reddit account, but I still come back to check the posts on Reddit now and then.
I tried to run a Lemmy instance but got hit by a wave of bot accounts, so I turned off my Lemmy instance for now. When I have time to get it back up and running then hopefully I can get more real people to come join the instance and the I can stay active on my Lemmy instance instead of continuing to read posts on Reddit.
At least I have stopped posting to Reddit though. So I am not providing their business with free content anymore. But still providing them with my eyeballs for their ads for now.
In the case of Twitter, people who had a lot of followers and were frequently tweeting would probably be better able to leave if they deleted their accounts. And as a bonus thanks to recent changes if you delete your account you can’t even read Twitter anymore, since reading requires that you stay signed in. So in a way Twitter helps people when they want to leave, as long as people do their part and delete their accounts.
I thought this was interesting in that it could be profound in the minds of public individuals, whether conscious or not, particularly if they share a lack of an eternal life.
Pre-Christian Scandinavia is a rather long span of time.
Tangentially related to that: the urge to "be someone" is likely shared by all, but the "being" that follows from having your name in the paper (or on Twitter) seems likely a surrogate for one's impression of being remembered and appreciated by people that knows you well, or something that can compensate for a lack thereof.
Point in case: the large proportion of of petty criminals and social outcasts among terrorists and the like.
At least they get to be in the paper (and/or on TV/Twitter/Facebook/Threads/Youtube/Mastodon).
For those who haven't seen it, the main character starts the film making a big point about how Nahunte is largely forgotten despite his efforts to be remembered, because he contributed nothing of value.
When you mention an interesting book/movie/any piece of media in a post, please include its name. There will always be someone interested in checking it out. I am.
I believe lots of Twitter users have the same problem. As long as they see a bit of engagement on their tweets/comments, even if they have 10 followers.
People who actually care for decentralization and the like over popularity, have long gone.
I moved to a different platform, left behind that community, and I feel a whole lot better for it. Barely anyone likes my posts any more, and I barely post. I feel great.
Non-commercial platforms have less pressure to drive engagement to pump DAUs, so I think they will always inherently start from a healthier base. Even if they do have algorthmic timelines, I think they can be done healthier because there's less incentive to send you engagement-bait and can instead just focus on sending you think you'll genuinely be interested in.
Depends on what you want. If you want reach, then you have to go where the eyeballs are.
If you don't want to deal with platform churn, then just build on a platform that you control (website).
For a select few, it's possible to do both at once.
Since I was never in it, it was very easy for me to stop posting to Twitter.
it's a dark forest
I see it more like a forum than a social media platform.
If the linking policy was the sole issue I think that tweet didn’t convey his meaning. However, I actually think that, like many people, he returned despite some remaining issues he had.
Also, I get it, social media is made to be addictive. Even more so when you have a following. My original point was that I think moving through a long chain of alternatives on moral grounds is not a common pattern.