Please don't take HN threads into ideological (or nationalistic) battle and especially please don't use HN primarily for such purposes. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html:

"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents."

"Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity."