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Ukraine’s Trembita Bomb

theguardian.com

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Kudos to The Guardian for choosing to illustrate the article with a picture of the guy wearing a "Who the fuck is Justin Bieber" T-Shirt.

> The prototype is Ukraine’s 21st-century answer to the V-1 flying bomb, or doodlebug, the long-range ballistic missile used by Nazi Germany during the second world war against targets in south-east England.

The V1 was not a ballistic missile - it was more like a cruise missile. The V2 was a ballistic missile.

they do call it "the people's cruise missile" on their site and twitter

I'm just pointing out the Guardian's error.

Just nonsense. Some people want cheap attention.

Oh yeah, you sure could negate my carma, but imagine what you will say, when these "trembita" will kill American or British civilian in Ukraine.

And unfortunately, it is not much threat for Russian military.

Iran/Russia use so low tech, just because they already under sanctions, and for them additional sanctions will be negligible.

Ukraine totally different case, even brake NATO/EU integration, will kill many Ukrainians, but sanctions will kill Ukraine.

IIRC the V1 and V2 were unguided, that's enough to cause destructions in cities, but not to destroy specific military targets.

My doubt is: Is this new missile guided? (I guess so, but it's strange that the article compare it to a V1.)

No. V-1 and V-2 have very bad accuracy, because in 1940s does not exist better. To be exact, standard deviation was about 500meters. I can't remember details about V-1, but for V-2 I read too much to forget. V-2 have analog guidance, azimuth "programmed" just rotating start stand, active part of trajectory curve preprogrammed by programmatic drum (like in washing machine), and total impulse integrated by electrolyte accumulator (precharged before start).

And this is when V-1 costs comparable to prop fighter, and V-2 like strategic bomber.

Because of these flaws, even Germans don't use they really much, and US just forgot about them.

Even Soviets planned to use missiles mostly for air defense and as NUC carriers.

But approx in 1980s, with new technologies (mostly, digital computers, but also, high frequency radio and high precision frequency generators, for example atomic time), appear high accuracy navigation systems. For example, claimed accuracy of Minuteman is about 10 meters, and Himars MLRS 1 meter.

As example of Himars MLRS usage, attacked bridge near Antonovka Ukraine, made few holes in road, so it become impossible to drive by truck, but pedestrians could pass it.

For about "trembita", I'm sure this is just propaganda, because cheapest military grade navigation cost about 10k$, and make 25kg explosive with civilian navigation is just crime.

Yes, I know, Iran make drones with 50kg explosives with civilian navigation, but they already got sanctions for this. I don't think, Ukrainian leaders will wait for sanctions if "trembita" will be produced in series, most probably, will just appear few new dudes, jailed "for nothing".

About the name, the Trembita is a sort of traditional (very) long horn:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trembita

The article contains this fact.

This is nonsense. I talked with "inventors", they do not understand, how this weapon dangerous for civilians and how fast they will got sentenced to jail for crime.

If something very bad done by Iranian or Russian terrorists, this is not meaning, same done by Ukrainians will be tolerated by US or EU.

'It’s simple and cheap’: the volunteers making Ukraine’s Trembita bomb

It sounds a bit like those pulse jets Colin Furze makes.

These articles should be written after the war ends. Why would you tell the enemy what and how you are doing it?

Such nonsense information bubbles made for Russian propaganda, to render Ukrainians as bloody terrorists, who made low tech weapons, which will be dangerous only against civilians, but nothing significant for military.

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