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Anyone who believes cnn at this point I feel sorry for. They’ve discredited themselves numerous times. They and media more generally are known for selling fear and pushing certain narratives because fear sells. And operation mockingbird was never really concluded. Psy ops are now more ubiquitous than ever.

And it’s less hot now than the last few years where I live. And I don’t live in a big city. Big cities are hot as hell, and should be abandoned or completely redesigned because they are unlivable hell holes.

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It's not "cnn". This has been widely reported by diverse scientific groups. Countless sources.

And it doesn't matter what the weather is like where you are. We're talking climate here - broad trends over broad areas, over time.

Truly, if some folks don't understand climate change at this point, and fall back to psyops and similar nonsense, there isn't much that can be done for them.

Really? So you say “believe science”? And science is settled? I have been to a bunch of colloquiums on this subject and this science is far from settled. Anthropogenic greenhouse effect is actually a forth order effect, right there after a third order natural greenhouse effect.

And do I need to remind you which ones are the first and second order effects?

And psy ops are definitely effective, just look around yourself. Or at the mirror.

If you have ever had to deal with an air conditioner isn't cooling because of low freon, you'd know that the problem is because the coils get.. too.. cold. They get so cold that water in the air freezes around the coils to be the point there is little air flow possible. Why?

When the freon is low, the freon expands too much into the coils. More expansion, more temperature drop in the coils. Additionally, the compressor has too little freon to compress to sent out to the radiator. The local coil's temperature has gone down, but the overall temperature of the system has gone up. This is the difference between weather (local) and climate (overall average). The weather of the coil is cooler, the climate of the A/C system is hotter.

Global warming is creating changes in the energy flow, both atmospheric and oceanic. Consequently, you may have locally cooler temperatures because hotter temperatures in other create blocks energy movement that would otherwise heat your area.

> And it’s less hot now than the last few years where I live.

It's a good thing that the statement being made isn't about your locality. I'm confused as to how this addresses the topic, since no one is making claims about all localities heating up at a universal rate, and the only people spreading the fallacy that climate change means "everywhere heating all at once equally" are the people who know very little about the topic in the first place...

But hey, the temp is lower where you live so I guess the topic's closed!

And it’s less hot now than the last few years where I live

That's not how it works.

CNN though, I agree, it's complete trash but climate change is not a "psy op".

Climate change is THE psy op. I know a thing or two about it. I myself was in the climate change camp/cult for a while. The hot weather this summer is driven primarily by the El Nino which is a natural cycle. So yes, we’ll have weird and in some places (especially densely populated cities) hot weather for about 2-5 years, but then I predict temperature will go down.

Greenhouse effect is a third order effect, maybe a second order, but that’s a huge stretch. I am being generous.

Edit: I don’t like being robbed on the ability to reply and being gaslit at the same time. “You posting too fast, slow down, thanks” my ass. If anything, it just gives me more reason to believe that there’s a narrative and any and all dissenting voices are being supressed. Under fair conditions, I’d debate anyone on this subject because as I have said previously, I can see through the bullshit. Consider this my last comment on this subject. I now have to go and save the planet from more psyops, like the war in Ukraine is not a proxy war and was unprovoked. Bye!

Phew, then global temperature should be going down aaaaany minute now: "Since 2000, El Niño events have been observed in 2002–03, 2004–05, 2006–07, 2009–10, 2014–16, 2018–19, and beginning in 2023."

(From Wikipedia)

> Edit: I don’t like being robbed on the ability to reply and being gaslit at the same time. “You posting too fast, slow down, thanks” my ass. If anything, it just gives me more reason to believe that there’s a narrative and any and all dissenting voices are being supressed. Under fair conditions, I’d debate anyone on this subject because as I have said previously, I can see through the bullshit. Consider this my last comment on this subject. I now have to go and save the planet from more psyops, like the war in Ukraine is not a proxy war and was unprovoked. Bye!

Honestly, this site is so awful you should probably just delete your account and never come back. That'll teach us!

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