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The Future of War Has Come in Ukraine: Drone Swarms

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> If courageous Ukrainians make it there, Russian soldiers will send in drones and artillery. All the while Russia’s army—which excels at jamming and GPS spoofing—is working to take out Ukrainian drones.

actually i saw plenty of complaints from russian side that when they start jamming they can't operate their own equipment (drones, radio)

on same topic, recently one of Ukrainians blogs write that they started to make suicide drones with SDR that tries to lock on jamming source and blow it up

Drones aren't big enough to make for good antiradiation munitions - the Russians will just put a cage/net around a dumb emitter and the Ukrainian drones will be attracted and failed.

Good antiradiation munitions need a powerful warhead and a human in the loop.

those days they tend to carry RPG munitions. sometimes with some extra explosives strapped to it. enough to cause damage.

making "dumb emitters" still require some engineering. also dumb emitters need to track patterns of proper jammers in order to attract proper attention: i am reading blog of somebody in reconnaissance unit of sorts. they been recording jammers working patterns. so i guess drones can be build to discriminate between targets

Repeating a pattern is stupid, as you said, it just takes an SDR do it.

RPG munitions are not effective if the warhead is detonated too far away from the target, ie, because of a cage or net.

What you need is a real missile munition with heaving fusing and a casing.

Are you able to share these blogs? Sounds very interesting.

it's the guy that makes recording. not sure if i read about drones that lock on jammers in his "blog" or different one (too much reading on topic of war in Ukraine, unfortunately).

i'll suggest to read it from the beginning to make a better sense of it https://ukrainevolunteer297689472.wordpress.com/

Surely they could just mark the position for artillery?

What kind of artillery? Precision artillery? Yes, but then again some of the dumb antidrone Russian EW systems are cheaper than a precision artillery shell - dumb artillery is too inaccurate and too easy to protect against unless it has human correction through a spotter-corrector drone.

https://archive.is/pgcpC

Thanks for the link.

I don't mean to dissuade people from reading it, but to point out a possibility that, because it is hosted in Russia [0] [1], the archive.today service may become unavailable (or potentially be compromised) if Russia ends up disconnecting from the Internet [2].

[0] https://old.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/t0ug... [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31946453 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36642753

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