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Well I must say it’s quite a beautiful afternoon out here in the dystopian hellscape. Just got back from a run in fort mason and it was loaded with tourists.

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That’s blatant cherry-picking. North Beach and the Marina are the only two neighborhoods in the core of SF that resemble pre-COVID normalcy.

Go to the Mission, the Castro, the Haight, Hayes Valley, or FiDi. It’s a disaster.

Assuming that the massive loss of tax receipts won’t have any affect on the city is delusional.

Uh... Hayes and Mission may be different from pre-Covid, but they're no disaster.

I go through HV on my way home in the late evenings four or five times a week. It is always packed with people and it’s genuinely hard to ride or drive through there with the insane number of Ubers and delivery drivers doing pickups who are double parked on both sides.

>North Beach and the Marina are the only two neighborhoods in the core of SF that resemble pre-COVID normalcy.

North Beach last month had that shootout between two cars down the Embarcadero. <https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-shooting-pier-39-embarcad...>

> Go to the Mission, the Castro, the Haight, Hayes Valley, or FiDi. It’s a disaster.

Ah.. the "bad press" has struck there too. Poor San Francisco city leadership. They just can't catch a break.

mission is better in some ways and worse in others (lived there through covid). haight and hayes are both fine. fidi is definitely dead and soma is worse. mission/market around 6th-12th is worse than it was pre-covid

Lol. I live in mission. Presently it's a paradise imo. Mission and 16th is a little crazy, but still I love this part of the city. I know Haight and Hayes to both be pretty lovely too when I visit friends. FiDi I'll admit is dead, but otherwise... "disaster"? I think you're exaggerating.

I'd argue the only two real things that have happened since COVID are that FiDi retail failed to recover and the Tenderloin expanded a bit further into lower Nob and SOMA. The rest is pretty much as I remember it in 2019.

Oh sorry, am I not allowed to spend my time in the areas of the city that I enjoy the most? You’re telling me I should go to where it’s a disaster… why would I listen to your advice?

Gorgeous over here in "crime-riddled" Oakland as well.

Terrible afternoon in war torn West Oakland. I only saw one shirtless guy walking his pit bull today. I’m used to seeing three before 5pm.

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