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I'm amazed that people are willing to give facebook another try.

Facebook filled our lives with rage-bait. (Not even going to touch the elections manip)

They took over instagram and removed the time based sorting with their algorithm.

So fool me once, shame on you. Fool me, you can't get fooled again.

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> I'm amazed that people are willing to give facebook another try.

Wait until you realize billions of people still use Facebook and Instagram daily.

If you click on the instagram logo in-app, there’s a drop-down with “Following”.

Click on that and you have just your followers, no adverts and it’s time-based.

Anything is better than twitter at this point.

Well there’s plenty to choose from. Threads, Mastodon, Substack Notes, Post.News, Bluesky, and all the tangential copycats (Nostr, Spill, T2 Social, Truth Social, Hive).

We have to be reaching oversaturation in this space. I really wonder if all these projects are misjudging the appetite for a Twitter replacement.

In reality I think the need for a Twitter competitor was never stronger. Bluesky didn't catch on, they're not even out of private beta. Mastodon is riddled with issues that prevent it from reaching the mainstream. At present, Meta has the only product with the reach and scale capable of rivaling twitter. Even if you think the alternatives are "good enough", it doesn't matter because no one is using them. This will be different.

None of them other than threads has reached enough traction, threads is growing incredibly fast, and will have critical mass for users to migrate. Also there is nothing new to learn, just use your existing Instagram account/create one and you are ready.

Truth Social is just a fork of Mastodon and is a terminal grift on followers of that particular political personality. Hive was a school project by 2 people that managed to secure funding without a real strategy and afaik hasn't really been able to reach a critical mass.

It's like they are not even trying - bluesky requires an invite, threads requires a phone. So I can't use either. Some saturation.

Do you not have phones?

Why on earth would I use small handheld sitting in front of big monitors?

And no, if I am out and about I am not going be surfing on my phone.

Why?

Did you see what elon did last week? I am not going to pay for a social media site which still gives me ads and has rate limits.

You don't have to pay and the rate limits are temporary, this was stated at the point they started. It's a big deal to the anti-Musk activists but from a user standpoint it's generally negligible.

You can't view content there without an account now.

Not sure why people aren't making a bigger deal about this. Acres of content were removed from the public web overnight, and people (like journalists) who still treat this like it's some sort of public service seem clueless to this.

Rate limiting is minor compared to that.

They already reverted that. https://www.engadget.com/twitter-quietly-backtracks-on-requi...

I still can't view any content without signing in.

This comment thread started with someone explaining why they won't use Twitter, and now you're arguing from the standpoint of someone who essentially doesn't use it anyway.

I can't load tweets on people's profile pages, but navigating to a specific tweet works. That probably kills a lot of indexers.

Probably they just wanted to fix the problem that existing tweets referenced in news articles, etc. were now unavailable, but at the same time keep things locked out to non-account holders generally.

Pro-musks activists keep telling us it’s no big deal but how exactly is it better for users to kick them all out of tweetdeck and force them to pay for twitter blue?

More and more accounts are getting off the twitter bandwagon. Clearly it has an impact on users to keep losing features, being asked to pay and now being limited in how many tweets they can read per day. How’s that an improvement for the normal user?

You've listed a few anti-user changes here - some of them incorrect (nobody is forced to pay for anything) - and then asked how the anti-user changes are pro-user. Certainly not the most logical of questions. There are of course many other changes. A better question would be, despite the claims you're making (those of which are valid), has the user experience gotten better or worse? Aside from the third-party apps and temporary rate-limits, you haven't mentioned anything else. So add those negatives to the changes that are pro-user positives and I think you have your answer.

By the way - what is a pro-Musk activist? Someone who corrects false statements on the internet?

We no longer able to believe what Elon say

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