Comment by jorvi | Hacker News Reader

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> I highly recommend you use a minimum amount of extensions anyway.

This why Brave has far surpassed Firefox at this point.

- Good privacy defaults

- Adblocking

- The iOS browser actually has ad-blocking (this alone is why I shy every layman away from Firefox, fuck Mozilla for specifically locking those users out in the cold)

- Choose your own blocklists

- Anti-fingerprinting

- Soon cookie auto-delete

- Soon port scan blocking

- WebRTC protection

- HTTPS upgrading (less relevant these days but hey)

- IPFS

- Tor

They also have a viable business model beyond “pay me off, Google”. And that is not to mention how Mozilla has chosen to soak their entire culture in ultra-progressive nonsense instead of rooting it in tech.

Yes, Brave appending affiliate links was scummy (although not particularly harmful to their users). But that is quite some time ago now.

I was a Mozilla / Firefox stan for a very very very long time. I still love Thunderbird, especially the progress they’re making now. But Firefox (and to a lesser point Mozilla) has completely lost its way.

Let's not forget mozilla prioritized renaming master password to primary password before adding back in print to Firefox mobile, and it's still missing..5 years later...

That doesn't even make sense. Nobody says "primary password".

I keep forgetting Mozilla is a political action organization that occasionally distributes web browsers. Or at least that's how they envision themselves. Maybe if they focused more on the bug-fixing and the browser-making and less on trivial updates they wouldn't be at < 5% market share right now.

My best term to describe what is happening (and I've seen it in many other instances under completely different circumstances), is that the organization has been "captured". The stories and narrative in such organizations are then pervasive towards that property (or cause in this instance), at which point nothing else can happen and the people that don't subscribe to that narrative leave, making it worse.

This is hysteria. Mozilla's "political action" is minimal compared to their browser work. Pointing fingers at mostly nonexistent institutional wokeness as the reason for their low market share ignores the many true reasons (including network effects and consumer inertia with a "good enough" product that everyone already knows how to use).

On the plus side, consider how much the lives of BIPOC were materially improved by that change. Oh wait, it did nothing.

I haven't looked much at Brave, does it have nested vertical tabs and bookmark tags? Those are my killer features that I really don't want to give up.

Verticals tabs do have nesting via tan groups. They just introduced vertical tabs, so expect pretty quick improvements and iterating for the next few months.

Two things coming in the (near?) future:

- vertical tabs get a number or background color when collapsed, helping visual differentiation and memorization

- tab ‘+’ button moved to more convenient location

Bookmarks don’t have tags, and I haven’t heard much noise about planned improvement (or users needing improvement) there.

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