The problem is that the system design interview somehow became a necessary component of the FAANG hiring process.
I encourage you to apply: https://www.apple.com/careers/us/
The most money possible is far from meaningless. If I work for a company, which one will deposit the most in my bank account in a year and/or the most in my brokerage account when my stock vests?
[1] not literally FAANG, the most profitable public tech companies
https://finasko.com/fortune-100-companies/
What do you think the average compensation of those companies are?
I’m well aware of the comp levels at at least three of those companies because they are based in my former home town - Delta, Home Depot and Coke.
They pay their senior devs about the same amount as an intern I mentored got as a return offer (cash + stock).
I’m very familiar with at least three of the companies that are based in Atlanta - Delta, Coke and Home Depot.
Seeing that I’ve worked for corp dev for almost 25 years before joining BigTech.
https://www.levels.fyi/companies/walmart/salaries
The highest one in retail is Walmart.
Level 5 comp for Walmart is about the same as a mid level developer at Amazon and Amazon is in the middle of the pack for tech compensation.
Again you still refuse to name a company and level and numbers.
But if you knew anything about English you'd know "ballpark" doesn't mean "exactly equal".
What do I know?
And yet you still haven’t been able to prove your claims that “most” pay about the same.
But yeah, all those 27 years of experience totally weren't just you sitting in a chair somewhere, being "part of the team". Got it.
> prove your claims that “most” pay about the same.
first prove I claimed that (hint: I didn't)
I'm starting to think you got fooled into thinking BigTech was the only option, and are now discovering how untrue that actually was.
Now I’m still waiting for you to prove your claims which were “Most Fortune 100 companies are competitive now” and you haven’t provided a single link.
> I'm starting to think you got fooled into thinking BigTech was the only option, and are now discovering how untrue that actually was.
Well
A) seeing that when I started working, only one of the current FAANG companies existed, I know that FAANG isn’t my only option.
B) seeing that I specialize in cloud architecture and modernization + dev - ie “system design”. I think I’m at the right “F100” company.
Besides, it's not actually at all clear if you care about this topic genuinely or are just being a jackass online, so you can forgive me if I don't take your demand for my effort more seriously.
You shouldn’t need to “do research” if you knew what you were talking about.
Are you now claiming that “dozens” of companies - ie at least 24 — non tech companies in the f100 pay “in the ball park” of Google, Amazon, Apple , Facebook and Netflix???
And yes, dozens. Many dozens. Hundreds, even hit the "ballpark" of FAANG pay, especially now. FAANG isn't what it once was, the separation isn't nearly as large.
Then how is Walmart in the ballpark of Amazon if it takes being a L7 engineer to hit the same compensation as an SDE2 at Amazon for example.
FAANG initial offers are still on the same level they always were, they are hiring fewer people.
I haven’t paid attention to the other stocks. But AMZN and my RSUs are higher than they were when I got hired in mid 2020, I got a refresher and I still have 60% of my original stock unvested.
The first two years, most of my compensation was cash.
My compensation has gone up decently in the past three years and based on the current stock price, will be up next year
And I can’t speak for Facebook. But from what I know about Amazon and heard about Google, they are both giving out refreshers to make their current employees whole.
Netflix pays mostly in cash.
And what is your definition of “in the ballpark”?
Consider this a little test; figure out what I'm talking about and where I got the $493k, and I'll continue to engage. Otherwise I'm done.
It's a pointless academia by proxy situation that encourages filling out teams with the kids of people who csn architect and tinker forever but have no capability to actually deliver software anyone wants to use. This becomes more clear when you look across the last 10 years in FAANG and list out what products have actually been delivered that are improvements to users and customers vs what's just infrastructure padding and bought in though acquisition.
It is something that was asked of me in interviews, and comes up often in my day to day job. And being able to design systems, and to help review systems others are designing, is probably the single biggest impact thing I do regularly.
It is more useful in day to day than the algorithmic knowledge that was also asked of me during interviews. While there are people that do use complex algorithms in both companies, most software of Google is converting a protocol buffer into another protocol buffer, and in Amazon is the same thing but with JSON. If you are a frontend engineer, you might convert into HTML by plugging the values into a template engine.