If they get the little details right, I see this as the only real competition to Twitter right now. After trying Mastodon for a few months, it's certainly not it.
But that had a compelling day-1 offering that was clearly better - massive free storage allocation. Bluesky doesn't have a compelling reason to sign up like that, so the invite system feels flawed.
Do people actually talk about bluesky outside of HN? I never heard of it anywhere else.
I see a bunch of people talking about it on Twitter in the context of "I'm on Bluesky, follow me there in case this implodes". But yeah, >90% of the Bluesky mentions I see are on HN.
- Email is federated so there is much less cost to switch providers where you can still receive and send from others. No stickiness factor
This is why Gmail succeeded and g+ failed
Different world, different internet, different userbase.
Unless of course they first want to see how much interest it gains
I’ll DM you!
EDIT: realised you can’t DM on HN
How can I send a code to you? If you want one that is, you might not be bothered :-)
EDIT EDIT: I’m using the Hack App on my Phone, I think maybe I can DM followers from the desktop site?
Not sure on the DM stuff, if you figure it out let me know!
6ndpn1zk AT duck.com
zhym4g7v AT duck.com
Apologies for the delay!
I'm all out of codes now - If I get anymore, I'll share them here.
I didnt realise at first there were so many requests! :-)
There is no way to DM, but Firefox Relay can be used for temporary email addresses:
xow6d86sq at mozmail dot com
7jsqi5gf at duck.com
Apologies for the delay.
0df41fec3f63 AT fomogo.club
Apologies for the delay.
I haven't got one either yet so don't know its state.
They gave invite codes to some "influencers", and it got a lot of hype and media attention, but after the hype died down somewhat, it's become basically a nothing burger. I've stopped giving out the invite codes that I'm accumulating, because my feed is pretty boring and dead. Bluesky is far more "promise" than reality.
Meta has 1000x the engineering resources of Bluesky.
That's an incorrect assumption. I've given out codes before. It didn't generate more content, because people quickly lose interest.
The grass is not greener on the other side. It's a dead party. Inviting a few more people isn't going to help. If they open up the gates to everyone, that's a different story, but they're not nearly ready to do that.
That seemed to fade fast on an individual basis once there was critical mass to support conversation on other shared interests between users but flares up again from time to time when a new 'wave' of people join. Maybe bluesky just lacks critical mass for user interest overlap other than 'being on bluesky'.
and Mastodon.
Ceci est un post de protestation.
- A very, very small part of socialization may very, very occasionally happen on social media.
- Social media allows for multiple phenomena to happen, but the overwhelming majority of it won't be socializing.
The issue here is the redefinition of "socialization" intrinsically made by the "social media" marketing campaigns. The solution is a better understanding of what human socialization actually is.
This is not a critique of social media. I like and use it, even though I'd like more diversity. But stop mixing it up with "socialization" because it is not, even if the marketing of social media relies on trying to mix them up.
But I agree if there is heavy integration with the rest of Meta's products I'll be less happy.
Personally there is very little crossover between what I follow on instagram and twitter. So the quality of the discussions vary greatly.
On Twitter I follow developers and product people. The quality is better on Twitter, but it's definitely declined because of engagement seeking over the last few years.
But I'm guessing they wont do that, as Meta wants lock in and registration, and following all your data.
At least current version of instagram on the web is pretty lame, if you don't install some browser extensions.
Whether that's for unknown logins, spam accusations (just an accusation is enough for a tech company to throw the ban hammer), etc.
Why?
People normally have the reverse complaint, that the algorithm makes them miss content.
Huh? Mastodon certainly has hashtags. Likewise, there are posting groups. More implicitly, different social groups tend to cluster together and re-boost interesting things.
Like, to be clear, fedi isn't going to be the right solution for everybody (or necessarily even for most people), and it's totally valid to dislike it or prefer something else. But it certainly does have organizational tools; they are just differently shaped.
I don't know whether it helps your use case, but Mastodon has a "Lists" feature, which allows you to group the accounts you follow into separate realtime threads. For instance, one list could be for small accounts from which you don't want to miss any post, while another list might be for high-volume daily news accounts (and IIRC, there's even an option to "hide accounts on this list from your home timeline", so you could use lists for the noisy accounts and have everything else in the home timeline).
HackerNews posters are not the typical Twitter users.
(Just to be clear I personally hate the algorithmic feed but there are lots of use cases for it that just don't align with my Twitter usage)
I don't personally notice a lack of engagement. Maybe not everyone migrated, but I feel like the most important people have.
what ratio of tweets are rich media vs. text?