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CodeIgniter and CakePHP are great examples of code badly brought forward into PHP5 from PHP4 roots. I wouldn't recommend either to either a novice or an expert; CodeIgniter is a fantastic example of out-of-date practices and CakePHP an example of writing such abjectly slow code that everybody else benchmarks against you to look good.

If you're going to use PHP5, Symfony2 is a well-reasoned, best-of-breed system.

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I'd also recommend Kohana. It was originally a fork of CodeIgniter, but version 3.0 was a complete rewrite for PHP5. Compared to Symfony, it's more of a barebones framework.

I wouldn't. Kohana's track record of cavalier response to security concerns is off-putting and their code is not particularly impressive.

There's a reason people who use PHP are getting on @fabpot's train and not Kohana's, and that's because Symfony2 does much, much more right than anyone else in the conversation.

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