This headline makes it sounds like SpaceX is more that a freight carrier here, undoubtedly for clicks.
Being a freight carrier to space is indeed very cool, and exciting, but they didn’t make the telescope.
This headline makes it sounds like SpaceX is more that a freight carrier here, undoubtedly for clicks.
Being a freight carrier to space is indeed very cool, and exciting, but they didn’t make the telescope.
> Incidentally, Euclid was not supposed to launch aboard SpaceX at all. As late as February 2022, the mission was manifested upon an Arianespace Soyuz (provided by Russia) for a March 2023 launch in French Guiana. Russia's unsanctioned invasion of Ukraine forced a stop to most such space collaborations aside from the International Space Station, pushing Euclid's team to look for another ride to space.
How many commercial freight carriers do you think are options right now?
I would love for rocket launches to be as mundane as hiring a trucker... but they aren't.
https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Euclid...
Here's the lead scientist who originated the idea:
Given that it’s a rocket launch, crediting the company that did the launch makes some sense.
The fact of the matter is worldview changing results will likely not ever surface, just as they didn’t from JWST. So instead press departments pretend all the steps along the way are important because it helps improve public sentiment for the financing of these “moonshots” (which hardly even deserve the name, we haven’t accomplished anything remotely like placing a man on the moon in decades).
What do you count as worldview changing result? Who promised you that the JWST will deliver such things?
You are also quite quick to write off a mission with a 20 year design lifespan.
I wouldn’t know what JWST’s result would be, if I knew it a priori it wouldn’t be much of a result would it? But I don’t expect much. Happy to be pleasantly surprised.
Interesting. What was your world view before this and how did it changed? Did you for example believed earlier that only the galaxies we have mapped so far do exist?
> if I knew it a priori it wouldn’t be much of a result would it?
Yet you are already certain it “did not materialise”. What was the latency between the photons of HUDF hitting Hubble’s mirror and your worldview being changed?
Certainly nothing has materialized yet, which is all I claimed. Do you feel anything of significance has come from the project?
You’re telling me someone with exposure to HUDF saw more spirals and shit longer ago via JWST and said “wow that’s unexpected, who could have guessed spirals and shit would go further back”? And you believed them? If so, I have a bridge to sell you…
Either they have no pattern recognition/projection capability, or (more likely) they’re pretending to express shock at the exact result they expected because it results in more media attention and funding.
Consider, what gets more media attention: “JWST finds more of the exact same stuff Hubble already found everywhere, but this time at the slightly lower frequency for which it is tuned” or “Breaking News! Scientists working on the JWST say they have found signs of early galaxies that have been around for far longer than anyone ever imaged before!”? If you look closely, the two messages are the exact same. But to the media/layperson something interesting is happening in the second one.