(Currently I work in LÖVE, but programs there use at least 100MB, so it probably won't be to OP's taste.)
Many of you will assume I'm a moron for choosing such a retrograde, simpleminded language. It's true! I am a moron compared to most HN readers. And your language is much more sophisticated than mine and had generics long before and didn't need a make keyword and stuff. No disagreement there.
All I know is I can get the job done faster in Go than with Python, and I have type checking too. Plus a sane-ish package manager and a single, stable ecosystem. Plus I can deploy a single executable that even lets me embed assets inside it. It just stays the hell out of my way.
Python frustrates me too, but I just throw poetry and nix at it... keeps me not frustrated. :D
It looks like my LOVE game uses about 99M resident... not too bad given it's pulling in a lot of libraries such as SDL2, luajit, audio decoders, etc etc.
I think my concern is more with how do I embed Racket on low memory systems if a simple "racket script" is going to use a large % of the RAM to issue a `(sleep)`?
I have a low traffic web service and I wasn't happy with ~125 MB of my 512 MB VM's memory being used up by SBCL, but I was able to just drop in CLISP and memory usage dropped to ~25 MB (and for reference: a "hello world" is under 10 MB with CLISP, similar to Python).
I cannot imagine going back to Python, Ruby or PHP after using modern languages like these.
Also, Java performance is good enough. Why did anyone ever abandon Java? It's easy to read, easy to write and pleasant enough to work with. If you need C level performance, by all means go with C, Go, Rust but Java to me is perfect, and Typescript is good enough for everything else.
Python remains a lot simpler. It is getting more complex, but it has miles to go before it reaches Java-land.
Java applications (mostly picking on tomcat here) being pretty much their own world of configuration, with lots of different places to look.
Slow startup time pretty much kills it for lots of things I'd wanna write.
It's memory management stuff sucks, from a sysadmins perspective. Any java application I deploy takes easily multiple times more memory than anything similar in a non-JVM language.
Yes, lots of Java apps basically go "lol .... KABOOM" if you give them less than half a gig of RAM to play around in, but IMO that's a tragedy of the commons like thing within the ecosystem where common approaches mean you end up with layer upon layer of libraries none of which thought -their- RAM use was particularly egregious.
At this point, it's not the runtime's fault (G1 is excellent), and while you could argue that the language design led developers to do things wrong I think it's more a culture phenomenom - I think I might consider blaming J2EE and its proponents rather than the language itself.
Of course, from a sysadmin point of view, the runtime+application combination's memory usage is what matters in practice, I'm just saying the reason why you find yourself staring at the screen thinking "wait, it's using how much?!" is more complicated than "Java's memory management stuff sucks"
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Personally I kinda like Java, despite it having 4 different kinds of brackets and object.method() syntax. Maybe it's the combination of 1 file 1 class and using classes for everything.
Regardless, I'll stick to Common Lisp and C for the time being, they're nice.
It doesn't have the -esque syntax and similar overly verbose constructs.
Because I physically recoil when 80% of the code is "APIAccessConfigurator apiAccessConfigurator = new APIAccessConfigurator(apiAccessConfiguratorToken, new apiAccessConfigurationParameters().class)" and similar crap.