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" YouTube users will have only two options: to disable their ad blocker and allow ads or subscribe to YouTube Premium to get rid of all advertisements."

Or Vimeo, or Facebook, or TikTok, or ...

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Or, more likely, wait until adblock developers figure out how to circumvent adblock detection. In the mean time you could probably switch your VPN country to Russia, as there's literally zero advertisements right now from google.

Or tivo/dvr'ing our own computers.

It's just a big stupid farce when technology is used to bluntly cudgel users. Even if the user intents arent what corporations want.

You mean, setting up a computer with image recognition to listen to RSS feeds (multiple of https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=WHATEVER), go to the videos in the feeds when new ones show up, and record only non-ad sections to a capture card? You would then be able to watch the videos ad-free from a USB stick or SSD at a later time.

None of those platforms are a realistic alternative to youtube.

Since I started using TikTok, my demand for YouTube is down 95%

Should have specified further. Sure, if you are only looking at memes and youtube shorts, TikTok might be an alternative. Personally my youtube use is mostly 20min / 1 hour educational videos or background noise played on a TV. Nothing but youtube really covers this use case well.

I’m quite satisfied with the platform since all the enshitification is removed on the premium version which provides pretty good value for money.

Yeah, YouTube is great if you want to see long form videos from people youre already subscribed to, but I find their recommendations to be quite inferior to tiktoks. Less than 10% success rate.

Come to think of it, the only people I've newly subscribed to on YouTube in the past year I've discovered through TikTok.

It's a shame YouTube prioritizes ads so far above user experience - they have everything needed to build the best video recommendations platform besides the will to prioritize that above ad revenue.

Since I started using heroine, my demand for cigarettes is down 95%

Youtube can be used in a very unhealthy way. TikTok cannot be used in a healthy way.

My girlfriend insisted for months that she watches educational non-meme content on tiktok but even she ultimately had to admit it’s just a cope for scrolling tiktok for hours for the dopamine hit.

Eh, I think it's a bit harsh. I've gotten so many good music, makeup, fashion, cooking, adhd, and art recs from TT. If your interests map to TT's format then it works well, if it doesn't then it doesn't.

If you're gonna spend a few minutes scrolling through your phone because you have an awkward amount of time then TT is to me the cream of the crop. Reddit/News/Twitter just makes me angry and feel bad, Pinterest/Tumblr are stale, Facebook is for old people.

What is an awkward amount of time?

An amount of time that is too long to just wait but too short to start something else.

I don't think that believing such a time exists is healthy.

Seems like you've been guzzling the sinophobic propaganda. Tiktok is a much better platform than Youtube for user experience.

I think the fact that you felt the need to explain that heroine actually feels way better than cigarettes (after I didn't even say otherwise) and personally insult me for saying otherwise (after I didn't) should give you pause.

Tiktok would much more aptly compared to vaping - they are both addictive, but youtube is much more harmful because it's filled with toxins - their algorithm sends you to videos about conspiracy theories and hate rhetoric instead of just "interesting stuff that may encourage continued scrolling".

Further, youtube's algorithm rewards creators that waste their viewers' time, while tiktok punishes it.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tiktok+trend

Vimeo, odysee, bitchute, lbry , theta, livepeer, etc etc...

Chances that creators you like are there are basically zero. These alternatives are potential, not actual. The biggest of them, Vimeo doesn’t even have a user-facing frontpage.

Last I saw, Vimeo charged the uploader to host the content. And it's only use case was corporate videos where you wanted to ensure there was no suggested content or adverts around your own content. Though these days I'm not sure companies care as I haven't seen a vimeo link in a long time.

I listed 6 and you choose to complain about one. I don't care about any creators, I have a life. I use videos as a tool, if it fits what I'm searching for

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