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This is actually terrible advice, but I wouldn't expect a guy that earned millions a year to understand why, because it's not relevant to him: Quitting makes you unable to claim unemployment in most countries.

If you are put on a PIP, the right course of action is to:

1. Do the bare minimum to not be fired for job abandonment,

2. Apply to new jobs,

3. Let them fire you at the end.

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This sounds like horrible advice for anyone who wants to excel at their work.

From a management perspective, 1 and 2 are no good and will result in 3.

Programmers I know are pretty good and have multiple opportunities. If you suck and just want to hang on, then you could do this.

But if you’re good, then it’s best to avoid a PIP. Or if you get on one, figure out why and correct it. Or, easiest, just take one of the other offers and work somewhere where you’re in better sync with management.

Of course, you’d never want to quit without a new job lined up.

If you're already on a PIP then your manager simply doesn't believe in you.

Using the time to look for a new job is 100% the correct action

This man is correct

Right, but that’s the same advice as quitting.

Quitting means you don’t get unemployment. if it’s an honor thing you’re arguing than sure , but honor doesn’t pay the bills and fees your family.

Yeah. Its called quiet quitting. The difference is that legally a quiet quitter is still an employee and gets paid to do job search.

Yup. It's a last resort. If they just wanted you to improve your performance, they wouldn't include HR.

You're talking about FAANG PIPs, not what good managers would do that want to retain and develop good developers. PIPs it sounds like can't be recovered from realistically so it's time to move on. Maybe to a company that maybe even gives at least a little shit about you.

I would do a bit more than "the bare minimum" but otherwise, I agree. Either quit once you have a job or let them fire you.

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