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Ask HN: Where do you go for thoughtful, good faith discourse?

It seems as if everywhere I turn, online discourse has devolved into antagonistic, snarky, lowest-common-denominator noise. People have become so deeply entrenched in and have identified with their opinions leaving no space for an earnest, good faith investigation of differing perspectives.

HN is not immune to it either. So often the top comment is a joke, an extreme interpretation, or a tangential complaint that derails any meaningful discussion of the core message.

Where do you go for good discussion? Are there in-person spaces you’ve participated in?

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Where do you go for thoughtful, good faith discourse?

HN is about the closest I have found.

For everything else I take in all the things you mentioned, then I make a cup of lemon balm tea, sit in my recliner, turn on the 4 Red/NIR light clusters and recline. Then I meditate and transform everyone online into rational stable people all of whom can be red-pilled. Some may call it a coping mechanism but it has made for some of the best conversations I have ever had.

I can visualize the fedora now

I think by definition you're not going to find that in big networks. The incentive structure is about gaining reputation for yourself. Best way to do that is to "dunk".

I have good faith discussions with friends/coworkers. The incentive is to raise the reputation of your relationship, and the only way to do that is be a reasonable (and not tribal) person. That being said, this relies on you not surrounding yourself with tribal people

I agree with but and I find it difficult to avoid those types of comments myself, I need to try to control it.

Something I found very cool was in one subreddit where the OP could tag the post to exclude any off topic comments, then comments like jokes etc. were deleted (I believe by moderation, or users reporting, not sure) then the post would only contain on topic discussions, I found it very interesting. Not perfect but definitely seems better.

example: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/14kilce/serious_...

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The premise may be flawed, if you want to go deeper you need subject matter experts. For instance, in the case of the submarine implosion; very few groups of will be able to contribute; mostly submersible engineers and people who had direct contact with the firm. Isn't everything else going to be noise?

See https://tildes.net/ send me an email (look at my profile) for an invite.

Real life

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