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> CCS is done

Who are the remaining CCS adherents?

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Every other car except for the American models of Volvo and Tesla, from what I can tell.

That said, there are two CCS standards, one for (older) Japanese and American vehicles (SAE J1772), and another widely used in Europe (IEC 62196 Type). Both have been designed to be as backwards compatible with older charging standards as possible.

European Teslas ship with CCS Type 2 so I doubt this will have any impact on Volvos outside the USA.

Ford and GM are going NACS as well.

Plus Aptera and Rivian, if you want to include the smaller American companies.

Aptera is so cool. Love that they’re based out of San Diego and do a lot of work in house.

I think so too. I've thrown a tiny bit of money at Aptera because I think they are the most interesting car company in America right now with the most interesting car planned for a US launch in the next couple of years. I'm following them with great interest.

and still no product

Hyundai is one I know of, but they've put out a "we're looking into swapping" statement.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/23/23771215/hyundai-investor...

All of Europe.

Not the same CCS port.

I think in the post, context for CCS is CCS 1 which is the Americab variant. CCS 2 is not interoperable and not really useful for discussion here. Maybe Korea too? I can't remember.

VAG (Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche), Stellantis (Jeep, Dodge, RAM, Chrysler, Alfa Romeo), Hyundai-KIA, and all the Japanese OEMs are still on CCS.

VAG created Electrify America as part of the dieselgate deal, and since it's the largest CCS network if they switch CCS is pretty much officially done in north america.

Porsche for one - don't know of others.

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