Your second sentence doesn't follow from your first. Have you never fought something on principle, especially when a win could help others similarly situated?
Is that a problem?
Sorry. What part of human trafficking is consensual? Just trying to follow your logic here.
> but the most sadistic violence is just fine with them.
You seem to be projecting.
The article was about porn. Consensual porn. It was you that decided to deliberately taint it by dragging in human trafficking. Because you don't like porn and can't accept that sex outside a rigid framework should exist so you try to deny other people the right to be themselves or have their own lives their way. Elizabeth Henson has more guts and morals and decency than you.
Weird. I haven’t seen that category on the porn sites.
> It was you that decided to deliberately taint it by dragging in human trafficking.
Hmm. I’m sure 100% of _sex workers_ are there on their own free will. Right?
> Because you don't like porn and can't accept that sex outside a rigid framework should exist so you try to deny other people the right to be themselves or have their own lives their way.
I never said I didn’t like porn. Nor did I suggest a rigid framework.
> Elizabeth Henson has more guts and morals and decency than you.
You don’t know me, my morals or how decent I am. You instead project how you think I am based on you injecting words I didn’t say into a conversation. Weird flex.
If you want to watch nonconsensual porn, I suggest you report yourself to the police. If you are unaware of a difference between consensual and nonconsensual porn, please report to a psychiatrist.
> Hmm. I’m sure 100% of _sex workers_ are there on their own free will. Right?
Right. But if you have any evidence that they are not, please report it to the police instead of complaining about it on a discussion forum. It is your legal and moral duty.
> I never said I didn’t like porn. Nor did I suggest a rigid framework.
Then explain what your position is and whether or not you actually do or don't like porn. Do you accept there is such thing as consensual workers in porn? If so, do you think they have a right to do their job? If not, why do you feel that you should control their employment prospects?
Please answer the questions because there are so many people like you who pop up in sex and drugs discussions and simply try and kill them because you are unable to accept other people's autonomy.
Again, please answer the questions so I can get some understanding of your worldview.
> Do you accept there is such thing as consensual workers in porn?
Yes
> If so, do you think they have a right to do their job?
Yes
Do you feel the backpage ordeal was positive or negative for the sex worker industry?
To answer yours then "Do you feel the backpage ordeal was positive or negative for the sex worker industry?" I have no clue what this is about. I've been through the article twice now I can't see any mention of anything, a quick search through the HN comments, ditto, so where did this come from?
Was just wondering your thoughts as this conversation is productive.
Axiom: If it's between freely consenting adults then it's fine. If it's not between consenting adults then it's not fine and should be stopped. That is the simple basis of everything. Do you agree?
I know a little bit more about Craigslist and was annoyed when they shut down their contacts section. I had a limited degree of success finding casual sex on there, and I didn't appreciate American fundamentalists screwing that up (I'm in the UK).
"...This decision came after allegations by several U.S. states that the erotic services ads were being used for prostitution" – if prostitution is done between consenting adults, that cannot be wrong – see above. So why stop it? Some adults are forced into prostitution, some choose it and like it as a job (or at least make money from it and are okay with that). The former is wrong, the latter is not. I can think of 2 prostitutes I've known, male and female, both made good money and liked the job.
I guess that's it in a nutshell. Where do you agree or disagree?
(Like to mention that adults being forced into prostitution can happen not by force but by the need to pay bills. I remember a long while ago documentary where an American woman on the street said that she had kids to feed so "you get out there and you do what you have to do". It's possible economic circumstance is a bigger pressure to sell your body than coercion. I don't know).