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hopefully not

it's certainly not a given

Simple example: the web server that takes in the HTTP requests? That one definitely got initialized outside the call trace that's serving the HTTP request.

No different from an object that got constructed and then a method called on it.

ah, sorry, i misinterpreted what you meant -- obviously, yes, you're correct

i thought you meant state that is created from a call stack and persists after that call stack returns -- which is something else

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