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Open AI: Imagine if the best AI models were open and free

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30 pointsvmoore19 comments

Suggestion: don’t require my e-mail address to find out what your projects are.

There is a name collision between this organization “Open AI” and “OpenAI” - spaces matter. If I was running Open AI I would change branding to use their domain “Open.ai”

Yeah, there is no way this isn't a trademark issue. You can see that there are already confused people in this comment thread.

Well, the word 'open' is both incredibly generic, and very specifically what they're not. If there's confusion, it's pretty clear who started it.

I’m not a lawyer but from my understanding of trademarks, that doesn’t matter.

If it is confusing to consumers then it infringes. The genius is in “OpenAI” the actual company getting that name. And it’s just a name. They have no obligation to open their stuff.

If these guys said OpenSourceAI or OpenModels or something then it could work.

But IANAL. I just play one on the internet. :-)

Oh I didn’t realize this wasn’t OpenAI (the one everyone knows about). I was surprised they’d consider releasing their models and assumed it was to pre-empt some regulation.

I predict they get shut down in no time. This is too confusing to consumers.

Well done with getting that domain name, but you may be in a world of trouble with trademark infringement with OpenAI. To the point where they actually may have an argument to seize the domain:

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/policy-2012-02-25-en

This is beautiful satire. Indeed, what if the best models were open and free? We would be far ahead of the game, relative to the current situation.

> We would be far ahead of the game, relative to the current situation.

I am curious: what applications are currently unfeasible because of the licensing of GPT-3 and GPT-4? Even if those "best models" were open and free, the vast majority of the population can't even afford to run it.

I'm no fan of SAAS APIs either, but I struggle to imagine game-changing applications that aren't feasible with the status quo.

There are plenty of models where the SotA doesn't require a DGX A100.

Many of which are already free and usable for non-commercial purposes. It feels unlikely that the world would significantly change if OpenAI opened their kimono.

Beyond that one line in the intro text that is vaguely riffing on (the other) OpenAI, I really don't see what about this could be seen as satire? It's just another AI image generator with the one unique feature being trademark infringement. Confused what the goal is.

All I can see is a massive lawsuit. Maybe OpenAI would be kind enough to offer a small amount of money but I think they are legally entitled to just take that domain from the owner. Especially when they have Microsoft legal team behind them...

According to archive.org, it used to redirect openAI.com at some point. Perhaps they let the domain lapse and someone else picked it up. The address posted is 123 Main Street according to https://whois.nic.ai

If this is a company this is probably a trademark issue.

But at first glance this looks like satire to me, not a company. Poking fun at the "open" in OpenAI seems like protected speech in the US, and I'm guessing this is a US site.

Are .ai TLDs basically just owned by America, or does this still route via London?

I doubt Anguilla itself handles these issues.

Is there anything close to MidJourney?

Why does this look extremely sketchy?

I'm confused. Is this Sam's OpenAI or some other brand?

Nope some other group. Definitely a trademark issue.

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