Harvard’s new computer science teacher is a chatbot
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Totally legit philosophical debates aside, I think this is a great use of the technology. It's a very, very well-funded class (bigger dedicated full-time year-round staff than some entire departments,) so I'm sure it's not a half-assed effort.
Malan is a great lecturer and his CS50 classes are all on YouTube. I sometimes send new coders to them but they're a fun watch, in general.
Why didn't the funding go to hiring more staff?
My experience in a state school had far more access to education staff than what you describe, and for less funding.
Harvard tuition is $54,269, says https://registrar.fas.harvard.edu/tuition-and-fees .
Assuming it's a 3 hour class with a 120 credit hours to graduate, that's 30 hours per year, so each student pays about $5,000 for what seems to be a horrible staff/student ratio.
FWIW, I found https://cse.engin.umich.edu/stories/popular-intro-cs-course-... as a comparison, the EECS 183 course at the University of Michigan.
Three professors (Dr. Dorf, Dr. Bill Arthur, and Dr. Héctor García-Ramírez), and 24 student instructors for the 870 students who finished the course. (It doesn't say how many started the course.)
Full-time tuition at UMich is $8,780/in-state and $27,663/out-of-state.
Without class size numbers for Harvard, I can't directly compare the two.
I can understand that the distance learning version of the course does need to scale. But chefandy was talking about the in-person version of the course. (Unless "in a giant hall waiting" means some sort of VR-based course. :)
The total tuition+fees for Academic Year 2023-24 from the same page, is $79,450/year, giving $317,800 for 4 years, and matching your number.
Instead, I think wil421 was asking about the difference between "tuition" and "tuition and fees".
Anyone in the world can take CS50 for credit via Harvard Extension [1], and if you happen to be in the Boston area you are welcome to come to campus and attend lectures, sections, office hours, etc (but they also have everything you need fully online).
Like other large classes at Harvard (Stat 110, etc), these operate just like the weed-out courses at the big state schools. Unlike the state schools the deadline to drop a course without it showing up on your transcript or affecting your GPA is really, really late in the semester. So it's not uncommon for 50+% of the kids to be gone by the final exam/project.
Does that mean Harvard Extension students get even worse access?
Surely paying twice as much in tuition should mean something more than getting to say "I graduated from Harvard."
An extension student doesn’t have access to the full course catalog, and doesn’t live in one of the undergrad houses, doesn’t develop the same network of friends etc.
But they do attend the same morning graduation exercises in Harvard Yard and get the same lifetime benefits (if they carry through to graduation, that is).
That would (to me) only make sense if the extra $3,000 for the CS course subsidizes the other courses.
> and doesn’t live in one of the undergrad houses
Which is why I only compared tuition, and did not include the housing fee.
However, your degree options are very limited, you don't get access to the same interaction with the big famous names (though you can usually work some magic through side channels for genuine collab interests,) you don't really interact with the Harvard College undergrads, you don't get the same internship opportunities, you can't join the sports teams or go to most undergrad-specific events, you don't live in the Harvard buildings or eat in the Harvard dining halls, your email address is extension-school specific... etc etc etc. Even if there are undergrad specific things you technically can take part in, nobody is going to make sure you know about them. You DO get the same access to the online resources, all of the clubs, and all SEVENTY TWO libraries (some are like office-sized.)
Harvard knows how much cachet a Harvard degree has, and with the extension school, they must walk the razor-thin line between marketing that to extension students, and making the Harvard College students feel like ubermensch. You actually get a different degree from the extension school— a "Bachelor of Liberal Arts (ALB) in Extension Studies concentrating in XYZ" rather than the "BA/SB concentrating in XYZ" to differentiate it even more. Lots of extension school students try to push it on their resumes because most employers don't know the difference, and lots of Harvard undergrads get mad about it and feel like that cheapens their degree. In reality, the connections, outlook, exposure, and experiences uniquely available to them in Harvard College are the real secret sauces.
Reading about how crappy their intro CS course it makes me downgrade their cachet.
I can't help but wonder if the richer students simply pay for a tutor, rather than depend on the school-provided services.
The system isn't perfect - it never will be. But seeing lots of kids at sections and office hours is a good thing. It shows that they are willing to ask for help when they need it, and are willing to put in the hard work to succeed. I'm sure that some of the richest kids pay for private help. But one thing you need to understand about the wealthy is that they are more likely to make use of the services that are available to them. It is very striking to see how many poorer people suffer in silence when help is available, because they don't want to be a burden or are embarrassed to be in need of help. I assure you that no rich person ever feels embarrassed by asking for help.
As for Harvard Extension, a lot of people will tell you that it is around 100 years old. But in reality, it is a lot closer to 200 years old. Harvard alum John Lowell Jr left half of his estate to provide educational opportunities to greater Boston. They paid the most accomplished academics they could find to present lectures for free or cheap at night so that people who worked jobs during the day could attend. It wasn't limited to Harvard professors, of course, and it continuously evolved to serve the needs of the day. The trustees at MIT were the first to organize lectures into a real curriculum rather than a set of ad-hoc topics. By the early 1900s it had transformed into an organized group of all of the colleges and universities in the Boston area. Depending on the subject matter you studied, you "graduated" from the school that specialized in that subject even if you took courses at a different school. All those schools dropped out, one by one, until Harvard was the only one left - which shows their commitment to the concept (no entrance exam, inexpensive, targeted at non-traditional students).
At the events, there were Facebook and Microsoft logos everywhere. I'm pretty sure corporate sponsorship took care of a lot of it.
I learned that they always have money for stuff but rarely for staff. The class seemed to have significant corporate support from Facebook and Microsoft, and probably others— both Zuck and Ballmer have given guest lectures— but I'll bet that Harvard's governance rules didn't let them hire academic staff with outside funding or something like that. They def could use it on regular staff positions— I spent years in a full-time, permanent staff position that was funded through a project partner.
The support academics in CS50 are all done by student TAs at the lowest level, or teaching fellows— grad students maybe— for lecturing or more advanced help. The staff are for things like video production, technical infrastructure, etc. There's only so many qualified students willing to do that work and no way you're getting existing faculty to do it. I'll also bet that they have rules about hiring staff to do anything resembling instructional work.
Like I said, though, I don't know what the situation is exactly but I'm pretty familiar with Harvard.
Why buy the cow, amirite?
(By "they," I mean Harvard, generally. I have no reason to believe CS50 is exempt from this, but I have no special insight, here.)
They've taken on debt that their (government-employed) guidance counselors insisted would pay for itself. Decent paying white collar positions for non-degree holders, like administrative assistant, now require them because of lazy recruiting. And income inequality is worse because you can't resolve structural economic issues with credentials.
So you have someone with an expensive English degree from BU answering phones in a CS pool for 35k, and the 'dumb' kids who went to trade school and became electricians have to turn away work at hundreds of dollars per hour because they're in such high demand.
It's been a while since I was an undergrad, and I didn't study CS when I was (I was in math -- we didn't even get the unit test to tell us we were wrong lol). I understand auto-grading like this is very common in lower level CS classes, but wouldn't it be possible to write these "test suites" in such a way that they could provide some hints on exactly what was wrong? I have to imagine, based on my experience as a graduate TA in math, that undergrads as a whole make mistakes that typically fall into certain classes, and that those classes could be reflected or captured in the pattern of which "unit tests" end up failing. It doesn't strike me as terribly difficult to analyze these patterns of failures, after running the course at least once, and come up with useful hints as feedback.
Does nobody do this? Or, perhaps more to the point, does nobody ask their TAs to do this?
> Totally legit philosophical debates aside, I think this is a great use of the technology. It's a very, very well-funded class (bigger dedicated full-time year-round staff than some entire departments,) so I'm sure it's not a half-assed effort.
I agree broadly with this. If you're going to do this experiment, in principle, a class like Harvard CS-50 sounds like the right place to start, for the reasons you've listed.
However, if this chatbot is just an equivalent of ChatGPT with the GPT-4 model and some additional training/fine tuning, I don't think the technology is quite there yet. We've seen a lot of examples already of how GPT-x has a tendency to give "confidently incorrect" answers, and that's the absolute last thing you want to be telling beginners. I've seen answers that could plausibly fool experts, yet be wrong enough as to be useless once you try to verify the details. The danger here is that beginners may not recognize this, and may not be able to verify the details.
That said, I think there is a future for this sort of technology in precisely this type of instructional environment. The "confidently incorrect" problem is something that can be mitigated with fine-tuning, proper prompt engineering, and other techniques, but, to my knowledge, can't be eliminated if the system is essentially a bare text interface into an LLM. I think the work being done with web search is a possible direction here, since I've seen GPT-4 essentially give up and go search the web when pressed for details or when the actual answer would become too complex. For a restricted domain like CS50, maybe even some kind of formally encoded knowledge base would help it (similar to how I mentioned analyzing patterns of failures to provided hints).
What I do know is that the gigantic "hall-o-TAs" is absolutely not a great user experience for undergrad learners, so anything that offers the potential for improvement on that UX is definitely something I'd like to see pursued and developed.
For example, I once copy pasted an OSS code base into ChatGPT and all hallucinations went away. I had to limit to the files relevant to my questions, due to the context window limitation, but worked really well.
Providing hints is a bit tricky, however. Often times, students fail the test case for unexpected reasons, and our hints actually mislead them. I've had students come to me (as a TA) saying that the test case is wrong because they take into account the hint.
Naturally, we could just give better test cases / give a broad disclaimer, which we try to. We do the latter, but the former is tricky, especially when we are trying to come up with novel problems.
The problem with first year CS students is that, unlike math, they’re allowed to have a huge range of possible prior experience in the subject. Some have zero programming experience whatsoever, while others started programming in diapers and competed in numerous programming contests (and even won) before enrolling.
Yes, we do offer an advanced version of the intro course that is far more challenging and would be appropriate for many of those advanced students. But the advanced course is optional so no student can be forced to take it. Many of the advanced students opt to take the standard intro course in the hope that it would boost their grades.
So the course is dealing with (essentially) a strongly bimodal distribution of student ability and the professors don’t want to give the advanced students a free ride. That means the course is actually somewhat challenging for all but the most elite programmers and therefore extremely challenging for total beginners.
What this meant was that Monday office hours (assignments were due Tuesday mornings) typically had several hundred students (out of a total of about 1800) scrambling for help from a dozen TAs. Of course, my school only has a tiny fraction of the funding of Harvard, but there you go.
I doubt that Harvard would want to spend proportionally more on TAs for their course (which would mean more TAs than students), so even though their course may be way more “well-funded” than ours, it’s not at all so relative to endowment.
HN readers: universities that teach a so-called "How to Design Programs" curriculum [1] have discovered a partial solution to this problem. Emphasizing a design process in a functional language removes the advantage that students with experience but not a deep understanding gain from knowing how to cobble things together the way they learned in high school AP CS A.
I'm not saying it's the only route, but it works well and develops important skills that are (ime) not learned by tinkering.
[1]: https://htdp.org [2]: https://course.ccs.neu.edu/cs2500/labs.html
We even hand-mark their design recipes in the course! The students just do them after the fact.
They also don’t want to allow the advanced students to “test out” of the intro course, as some schools do, because the advanced students may be highly skilled at programming but totally lacking in introductory CS knowledge.
Source: Am a high school programmer
Firstly, a big part of the allure of CS50 is the fact that it's one big ol' nerdy computer party and you're invited!
Secondly, and I'm not trying to sell the Harvard mystique, but considering that Harvard's acceptance rate is 4%, the students handle brick-wall challenges gracefully.
Additionally, they don't necessarily want students that are going to do poorly in CS50 to pursue computer science at Harvard, so I'm sure it also serves as an effective bouncer for all of the students who haven't decided on their concentration deciding that they'll do CS because tech is sexy right now. The lectures look pretty straightforward, but we had to write code involving basic data structures and memory management in C on our paper midterm exams, with no reference, administered in a lecture hall. It's probably tough for kids that are used to acing everything, but it's a lot easier to find out you don't like CS in CS50 than it is to find out after choking on discrete math or a compiler class.
And as my first-year expository writing professor said after assigning like 70 pages of close-reading Kant for a weekly assignment, "Will it be difficult? Yes. Reading Kant is like running in sand. But that's why you decided to go to Harvard."
I want to believe that this will actually happen, but my experience with people blindly trusting what a tool (not even an AI-based one) says, including but not limited to students, suggests that's not going to happen.
Y'know, the thing we /human/ were supposed to be teaching you.
What they really mean is "think critically when others tell you something, but accept as gospel everything I am telling you".
They most certainly don't welcome challenges to the basic assumptions on which their teachings rest.
Not that professors are in any way unique in that regard; it is a trait shared by all people with power and authority.
Because this doesn’t match my experience, at all.
If you had good professors in college you should consider yourself lucky.
There is a lot of absolutely terrible professors.
A professor teaching about evolution will answer students' questions within reason - and students with a religious background might have heard some anti-evolution gotchas the professor will be happy to explain - like how something as complex as the eye could evolve.
But that doesn't extend to debating bible verses, allowing so many challenges that it disrupts the class, or changing the exam so you can pass it while denying evolution exists.
The idea that academics are on the right path has turned from something that must be continuously demonstrated to something that is assumed by default, as part of a new orthodoxy that ironically is almost indistinguishable from the religious and ideological orthodoxies that science once sought to replace.
You're talking about a Ph.D. level investigation, not something that is usually considered at the level of an undergraduate in the US.
Most beginners lack the contextual knowledge to recognize even glaring errors. For example, I once saw a distributed application that occasionally updated a central database without any locking. Occasionally the data would get corrupted by simultaneous writes, and the original dev had no idea why.
Consider adding more context if you want to continue to write about dogma in academia. Share your own experence. At the level of generality you are writing it's impossible to engage more because we don't share the same context.
I chose evolution merely because a substantial and politically important group of Americans earnestly disagree with the academic consensus; it's an area where there has been genuine public debate; it's foundational to some academic fields; and it would believably come up in first year compulsory classes.
I might disagree with academics about whether mailing a survey to mentally competent adults counts as human experimentation that needs ethics board approval, as outside of academia people use surveys all the time. But that's hardly something an academic would refuse to discuss.
I might disagree with academics about feminism or marxism or underwater basket weaving - but that stuff's all elective, why would I have taken an elective module from a teacher I thought was full of shit?
I might disagree with the high tuition costs of universities, and the money wasted on sports, overpaid administrators, and overpriced journal subscriptions. But most academics would actively agree with me, they just can't change it.
I might disagree with details of how a course is taught, like whether Java is a good language for an introductory CS class. Or whether we really need so much math in the CS curriculum. But that's not really a fundamental belief.
I might disagree with academics because I think the moon is made of cheese, but that would be a straw man argument.
Professors are trying to teach a class, not engage in a debate with a student. Challenging basic principles that everyone in the class are already assumed to have accepted is usually seen as an attempt to derail the lecture.
Derailing the lecture and drawing the professor into a debate with you effectively denies the other students access to education. It’s roughly equivalent to heckling a comedian.
If you want to debate your professor, do it on your own time, in office hours. If the professor is still offended and unwilling to debate then you have reasonable grounds to complain. Most professors I’ve met absolutely love to debate outside of class.
"Simply read the textbook" would be a more practical instruction, and also what I did in university anyway.
Critical thinking is a useful description but not a good prescription. It's like telling someone to always be orange. If you want that to happen you have to eat carrots. It won't just happen by fiat or willpower.
I think AI trained on text books should be able to achieve the same thing relatively easily.
It’s just an interactive textbook, seems like a pretty good idea to me.
Maybe I'm imputing too much intelligence to Harvard's administration.
If they think ChatGPT is ready to teach, they should offer an electrical course using it and force the administration to take it.
You can even get it to break its reasoning down into little convincing but, none the less, incorrect steps.
If I was running this course I would make that "artefact" part of the process.
i.e. I would tell students that the chatbot will occasionally very convincing lead them in the wrong direction but that they can fact check its answers in the course material.
I would set traps to ensure that they are doing that. ;)
Use LLMs but never trust them, they're the Cliff Clavin of information tools.
You won‘t have to. Students are extraordinarily skilled at fining endless pitfalls on their own.
Setting the stage where they either land in the pit, or start from within, ensures they're interacting with the material as intended.
This is true of humans just as well
LLMs as of now simply appear not reliable enough for an institution like this one to attach their name (which brings credibility in the eyes of the public), especially as their comments on the need for users to be vigilant ("they should always think critically when taking in information as input") make it sound like they did not in fact find some new way of reliably grounding output in accurate information.
Mind you, this is coming from someone who has great hopes for the future of LLMs in education as they can more effectively deal with students on an individual level. I just feel that currently LLMs are still too error-prone for an institution such as Harvard to incorporate them into an introductory course to assist. Until these insitution stop putting the majority of responsibility on students finding erroneous output, I feel this is not ready for wider educational use.
What's a reputable institution? These days most "experts from institutions" are proven to be wrong. The COVID-19 pandemic was a clear eye-opener on how little you could just trust anyone.
Even this, I wouldn't bet money on what I just said.
_"Point out incorrect assumptions or statements in the above answer."_
I got the idea from Khan Academy's [implementation](https://youtu.be/A7REVn9gzgs?t=1208) of GPT-4, where they allow it to 'think' by generating an internal response first, before generating a final response. This apparently improved the veracity of its output by a significant margin.
If ChatGPT doesn't double down on its original answer, then I know definitely not to trust it.
This doesn't solve the underlying problem, because it doesn't ultimately correct the error in a reliable way, but it does help me avoid some of the more obviously garbage output.
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They also generally won’t help you evaluate scientific claims unless you also have enough scientific background. If someone says “humans will set foot on Mars within 30 years”, you’re going to have a hell of a time determining whether that’s reasonable unless you know a lot about: rocketry, physics, space travel, radiation, astronomy, human anatomy, nutrition, engineering, economics, and many other subjects!
If you’re just a math/logic wiz and not an expert in those other areas, you may be inclined to say “they’ve already put rovers on Mars, should be easy to get humans there!” because there’s nothing impossible or illogical about the question.
How is that not an application of domain knowledge (know your neighbours) with a bit of intelligence? How do you teach people to do that in general? How do you teach people to deal with questions when they lack domain knowledge?
Being efficient and being lazy are rubbing up against each other with LLMs. A lot of blurred cognitive lines with this budding technology.
Every ounce of AI should be open source and free to the public. This is absolutely technological terrorism on the scale of encoding things in Latin to keep it from the masses.
One could draw a comparison and suggest that institutions that fail to adapt to developments in AI might be making the same mistake; only time will tell.
AI is the digital wheel and the powers that be are intentionally altering it's ability to free us, to contain us for themselves. Labor is a powerful tool for vote motivation and instilling dependency. It is hard to watch them do to AI what they did to Bitcoin because they are afraid of what humanity will become without them.
Oddly enough, AI is great solution to this problem, but it is currently being gutted in favor of established institutions of power. Highlighting the actual problem - control and elitism.
In the current case "uterus" and "cervix" are now considered to be the English words for those body parts. Is using a loanword really "jumping ship" when much of English's influence history comes from Old French anyway? I think this would be better dealt with in the hands of a linguist.
Elitism and access is an issue, but to me it strikes that the access issue is more about access to education, than access to the language itself.
Latin looks back on two thousand years of history. You probably mean the middle ages/renaissance, when Latin was indeed used by travellers to get around. At least some of the local elites in the bigger villages spoke it.
But even during the classical period of the roman empire, Latin might not have actually been spoken by people on the streets of Rome. Instead, people theorize that a simpler version was spoken: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulgar_Latin
Or is 'the computer told me so it's correct' good enough these days?
The same way you determine if a professor is knowledgeable -- they are employed by a school with certain level of reputation that you are comfortable to attend.
A good university will be full of smart people, student and teachers alike. You essentially learn by contact. There are also rich and influential people, who can provide you with great job opportunities.
It all goes hand in hand: the brand, teachers quality, student quality, the infrastructures,...
Worse teacher may affect the brand negatively, the smartest students may want to go elsewhere, the rich, who want to be with the smart will leave too, which will affect funding, meaning less infrastructure and be less attractive to the best teachers and researchers. It is all connected.
Jokes aside I'm sure our administration would salivate at deploying this for CS61A.
ChatGPT4 is better than any professor I ever had and it is not even close. Not to mention, the professors are not the ones who are going to get much better and smarter as time marches on from this point.
I am not even sure the credentialism from the Ivy league is going to make sense in an AI world.
There is no modeling going on with this. At most they are providing a system prompt to the chatGPT api to stay on the topic of CS. It is trivial.
It seems incredibly obvious the entire education system will not be the same in 20 years.
I applaud them for adopting this so fast because this is the doom of the entire concept of the ridiculously overpriced US higher education system.
Per chatGPT, non recte de hoc cogitas
I believe it's very important to encourage students to be transparent and to cite their sources, and give credit where credit is due (even if that LLM is going to violate copyright at the drop of a hat). So, students, when you use ChatGPT, declare that you used it. Cite it as a source; cite it properly; you'll want to name the engine and its version number, the date you accessed it, and all prompts in that conversation.
I believe that educators who are introducing LLMs in their curriculum are making the right call. Meet this head-on, not as a threat, but as an emerging tool, and get ahead of the hype and the FUD. And I'm confident that students will find out for themselves about all the bullshitting and hallucinations that go on, for better or worse.
On the part of the pupil that pays for an education, their relation to the teacher and institution is limited by their competitive pursuit of a career.
Altogether, anything which risks the institution's potential for profit or the individual pupil's competitive edge in the career market is unsustainable in the aggregate (or, "at scale" in HN lingo). If education itself is compromised, then so be it. This is the norm for good reason. There is no alternative (under capitalism).
Would this not be a 0:1 ratio? Not against LLM's for some coding assistance, I use it daily. , but equating a teacher with an LLM solution feels like calling a youtube video a 1 on 1 tutoring session.
Well at least a semester at Harvard isn't costing you much ...
Might not be a full teacher but its definitely an excellent teaching tool
Based on my experience with ChatGPT, it does really well as a "rubber duck." [0] Sometimes, it even gives back useful suggestions. Sometimes, it's just so far off base, I wonder what planet it's getting its advice from.
If I were the professor in this case, I think I'd suggest that students use it as a supplement: try LLM-TA first, look into its suggestions, and if it helps, great! If not, then try a few more things, maybe consulting LLM-TA a few more times. If that doesn't get you to working code and an understanding of the problem, then try human-TA. I think this represents something close to the optimal workflow for this tool, given the known limitations of the underlying technology.
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The only difference is that this hurdle is actually helpful some of the time.
I went through a distance learning course and I don't see this being far from it. I mean, it's not like anyone will have to come to the brick and mortar classroom just to sit there and listen to this AI thing talk about CS, everyone will do it from their room.
So on one hand you have a lack of proper instructor and on the other hand lack of social contact. Imagine being 18 and sitting at home alone just you and this AI.
Sounds ok if you are older, but not for the amount of money Harvard is asking for it. I am not even sure what you are paying for here.
So the students will be guinea pigs, and they all work for OpenAI.
What if your parents earn they much but don't want to pay for college for whatever reason, let's say just not getting together? Why be punished for what is not your fault? (Okay, in this case it could be if you're the reason parents don't want to talk to you, but you get the case)
This is assuming the use of gpt-4 (chatgpt would be a lot cheaper, but it doesn't follow system level instructions very consistently, often spilling answers instead of replying with feedback, hints and leading questions).
Also, projected costs per query are high because we want to feed it quite a lot of input tokens. The assignment text, the student's code as well as the reference solution code.
Something like this might work with a self-hosted (llama) model though. We do have a (small) database of student work and teacher feedback for each assignment we could use for training (privacy permitting).
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2023/6/21/cs50-artificial...
Is the goal to improve students learning or to reduce cost? The article does not even mention it. And I think that it is important to state the goal to know if the technology succeeds or fails. Too many "new technologies" are promoted by salesmen that move posts as soon as it fails and claim victory for things that nobody asked for.
I believe that, for now, AI teaches worse than human teachers. But we are rapidly reaching human level, and might surpass it quite soon (a few years). At that point, AIs will dominate in both cost and quality.
As a teacher, I wouldn't say dare say that. There are many teachers who are abysmal, and even if you get a brilliant one, you don't get to take them home so they can help you understand a concept while studying at 1 am.
Just yesterday, I was reading a history of mathematics textbook for fun where I had trouble with an explanation that wasn't worded too clearly in a book. I got my questions answered in a few minutes with GPT4.
I call this the Good Will Hunting paradox/paradigm... depending on whether or not you have a solution.
During an earlier edtech boom, "flipped classrooms" and similar were the exciting pedagogical approach. "Coaching" often enters the vocab. They all reached these conclusions empirically, seeing it work... Observed efficacy in small settings.
It's technology-related, but I think it's true with old technology too. Books and libraries are where the knowledge is. Books, recorded lectures, software, workbooks... these are all just learning tools.
Anyway... LLMs are definitely and obviously a potential learning tool. I suspect that like previous tools, it will increase the potential of the best students/classes/etc. It will not work as well in mass production.
It’s not much, but I’ve open sourced it so that you can see how easy it is to make something like this. The ruleset in chat.php is really all that’d need changed.
[0] https://www.businessinsider.com/widow-accuses-ai-chatbot-rea...
Harvard: hold my beer
Just kidding, of course.
In all seriousness, when I asked GPT-4 to solve a problem from the 2020 version of CS50, not only did it spit out a correct solution, it also correctly used "#include <cs50.h>"
I imagine they'd put some kind of guardrails up against literally spitting out the complete solution. I kinda doubt CS50 students would be sophisticated enough to a) realize that they're talking to GPT-4, and b) try to jailbreak it to give them the complete code. However, if they did, and they said they did, as a teacher, I'd be inclined to give full marks for the solution, provided they also tested it and it worked. ;)
To my knowledge, nobody has any good answers about using LLM to cheat, but I would not use that as a reason to avoid them for teaching.
The cheaters aren't going to ask ChatGPT-CS-50 for the answers, they're going straight to GPT-4.
i think that's one of the real danger of this stuff: society used to put some real value into your intellectual efforts - that was the stuff that promised "the Future", that's a real return on investment. Now these large language models started a kind of inflation in this area of endeavour. I would guess that the younger ones will have to ask themselves the following question: "why bother, if the LLMs will catch up on all of your efforts within five years, or so?"
Earlier generations didn't have to ask themselves this question.
I am trying to teach my kids some stuff, but this question is always lurking somewhere in my mind: I think this effect of a general demotivation is the real danger to our civilization - not these unrealistic notions of a 'robot takeover'.
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