The only way it preserves privacy is if it defaults to off. Anything else is a lie in service of a fraud.
The only way it preserves privacy is if it defaults to off. Anything else is a lie in service of a fraud.
> We’ve designed our telemetry system to collect data on “events”. An event is essentially an action, like: Finishing our in-app onboarding, Unlocking 1Password, Creating a new item, Filling an item in a website or app.
> We won’t be collecting your saved passwords, passkeys, usernames, and any URLs associated with your items. Your private information is just that – private.
With it also being opt-in I dont see an issue with collecting basic numbers for how often people use the plugin or app, as long as they're telling the truth, I think it's fine.
Also due to things like lack of ESNI and lack of onion routing to obscure client IP address, it leaks other information to the vendor and ISP like your travel history over time (via client IP geolocation) and waking/sleeping/working hours.
Software that exfiltrates this information without advance consent is stealing it.
> Software that exfiltrates this information without advance consent is stealing it.
I’m not sure who you are arguing with when you keep repeating this. I pointed out that the post clearly states they will obtain this consent. At any rate, you are obviously not a customer so why are you so mad?
The data doesn't belong to anyone. The data is just a fact of what happened. No one owns the fact that George Washington was the first US president.
We're dealing with quite a serious matter here.
> You’ll see this message when you open 1Password on mobile and desktop when it’s time for you to choose whether you would like to participate [...] The choice to share your data is yours. We won’t collect anything unless you’ve confirmed you’re happy to share in-app usage data moving forward.
> Later this summer, you’ll see the option to participate in our telemetry system and help improve 1Password. You don’t need to take any action right now, and we won’t collect any usage data without your awareness and consent first.
Developing modern software without being able to observe its operation is simply not realistic. Telemetry of this sort is an important driver of software quality and product improvement.
I’m convinced that people who talk this way are not recognizing the important distinctions between google-analytics-style tracking software that is just trying to squeeze more money out of users and observability-style tracking that is a key part of the software development lifecycle. If you refuse to acknowledge any value in the latter then you deserve the buggy software that results.
Go manages to do it, as does Linux, and Debian.
I think this sort of thinking is poisonous. Just because it is common does not make it ethical or justified.
Linux has a lot of telemetry features which businesses can use to aggregate data on how it is operating. These businesses if they identify problems submit patches to fix them.
>and Debian
Debian has telemtry on what packages people install.
The point people are making is that the one place you probably don't want telemetry software is your system critical password manager. There is a lot of potential for an "oopsie" where something accidentally gets sent that shouldn't get sent, and that's what people have an issue with.