It's one town of 8,000 people trying to allow non-residents who own property through LLCs still vote.
It might be bad, but the title feels misleading to me.
It's one town of 8,000 people trying to allow non-residents who own property through LLCs still vote.
It might be bad, but the title feels misleading to me.
What makes you so confident that things are going to change?
The title is perfectly fine. It's literally a Delaware bill. I don't know what world you're living in, but it's not the same one as me.
That is obviously not the case. Are we in the business of clickbait and fake news around these parts?
From another comment [1]:
> In Newark, Delaware’s third-biggest city, a similar rule allowed one property manager to vote 31 times in a local referendum in 2018, one for each of the LLCs their company owned
https://www.promarket.org/2022/05/23/delaware-the-state-wher...
It really boggles the mind how ignorant Americans are of basic civics. Just the other day I saw a generally knowledgeable law YouTuber state that rights are "granted by the government" which can't be further from the truth in the US.
thats what the good document promises, not quite what plays out in real life
Yeah, this is a disconcerting trend that I've observed too. Do you this think could be an issue that's always existed at the same levels and is now easier to observe due to the window of social media (and looks like a trend), or do you think it's something new?
That is because the Bill of Rights form the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution, the preamble of which opens thusly:
"We the people of the United States,"[1]
That literature has been interpreted by the courts as the Constitution only applying to United States citizens.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preamble_to_the_United_States_...
Obligatory IANAL.
"For some reason" seems like a fair description of that. It's not explicitly said, the closest is "secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity."
And "We the people" is talking about who wrote it, I don't get how one can claim that bit is who it applies to.
I get the arguments made to do this, to me they seem clearly against the spirit of the Bill of Rights/Founding Fathers, something we generally hold to be sacrosanct.
No, but while some students can benefit from the internet in general for school, I'm convinced keeping a socially-expected Skinner box on one's person every waking hour is not great in general. More specifically, learning complex, multi-faceted, and important topics while (attempting to) ignore the Skinner box is not good for any subject that is not, or cannot be, subjected to standardized testing - and many subjects that are.
There is no protection from the election being setup in such a way that your votes are diluted by some other set of votes.
In my imagination, the first thing Mayor Blackrock 9754 LLC will do is approve a referendum to phase out residential zoning for new developments, next comes the requisite Japanese tech corps, holographic ads and perpetual night. I never imagined this would be set in Delaware - but it sort of tracks.
The constitution leaves qualifications for voting up to the states. If Delaware allows corporations to in certain state elections, it would follow that they’d be able to vote for congressional seats as well.
From article 1:
>The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.
Specifically, the 14th amendment's equal protection clause is seen to apply to voting rights (of which apportionment is perhaps the most unclear, but literally giving individuals multiple votes, as opposed to different weights is sort of a beyond obvious violation).
You'd be more likely to tune to your local classical station and hear techno. It'd be that out of character
Go listen to the 150 or so episodes of the 5-4 podcast for lots of examples
Legally? No.
However, the idea of a construct being deemed a person makes no sense given how we define what a person is.
Further, having essentially broken that definition, we have opened the door for all sorts of crazy legal things to happen! Anything can be a person. Anything can be anything, taken to extremes.
In addition to voting issues you mention, having the corporation as person means some of us have agency others do not due to how we operate companies. The owners have a shield for all sorts of otherwise expensive and risky behavior. Great as well as evil actions are possible, affordable and it is not necessary we allow these things.
I see it as very harmful.