Hacker News Reader

Comment by bee_rider | Hacker News Reader

I wish as a developer tool Apple would let people run Vision Pro apps on an iPhone in something like Google cardboard.

It would be an awful consumer experience of course, but it would be nice just to try and get ready for the real devices.

View on HN

Part of the magic is the eye tracking and exterior cameras tracking hands. Without those, I don’t see how what you suggest would be very helpful

Surely not every app will use the hand and eye tracking.

Let the user attach a pair of mouses (one for eyes, one for hand).

> Next month, Apple will open developer labs in Cupertino, London, Munich, Shanghai, Singapore, and Tokyo

It can be pretty janky and still be more convenient than traveling to one of six cities.

Eye and hand tracking are supposedly the only way to interact with the device, so unless your app is not interactive at all, you will use them.

Eye tracking and hand gestures are the default way to interact with the device, but it also supports pointing and even normal cursor navigation via a paired trackpad or mouse in the interest of accessibility.

I'm assuming that in the long run the idea is that if you're developing for the platform you own one (or your company does). The labs are a bridge for the first batch of developers, not Apple's long-term plan.

I imagine, like touch, Apple would not allow apps dont don’t work without it’s primary input.

So theoretically pieces of ARKit in iOS are the same as in VisionOS.

In fact I’d be surprised if VisionOS doesn’t readily eat up all of ARKit dev patterns,

It's more that ARKit is a shared component used by iOS and visionOS. When you develop a fully immersive scene, you have easy access to the necessary ARKit APIs to do things like attach objects to walls, etc.

See the block diagram from a WWDC session here: https://twitter.com/firt/status/1665835204953481218

Reply on news.ycombinator.com