if you find yourself saying something like 'non-woke' unironically you are part of the problem. You're suffering from an acute outrage pornography overdose. Your prescription is to go touch some grass.
The problem manifests itself not just when people try to post right-leaning arguments. One time I got banned from a Bernie Sanders subreddit for expressing mild criticisms of Bernie from a moderate viewpoint.
Actual right-wing viewpoints often get nuked from orbit. But political moderates are not safe either. On many subs any political view that deviates in any way from progressive orthodoxy runs a high chance of getting deleted.
Using it as a slur, as originally done by Trump, places you into a very specific camp that is certainly nowhere near moderate.
There's a reason why this word is used as derogatory by majority of people, and it has nothing to do with Trump.
Woke is broke, man.
That it can be associated with zealots... go find me a label that couldn't.
Exactly, and a "Nazi" is just a person who cares deeply about their country, a patriot.
Edit: the problem with this slippery slope argument is that the likes of Trump supporters are "just patriotic," but are also engaging in book and curriculum banning.
Based on more than a decade on Reddit, I 100% believe that the mods and majority of the readership of /r/politics, /r/worldnews, and other large default subreddits would, yes, after taking power immediately commit mass murder of those who don't share their ideologies.
It really does not, and you thinking that it does is a good example of the kind of dogmatic "if you are not with me you are with the enemy" attitudes that make so many people annoyed with wokism.
There are many political moderates and even some leftists who are annoyed by wokism.
No, that's a poorly constructed strawman. Even conservatives care about the plight of minorities. There are liberals and moderates who are annoyed by "woke" leftists who believe acronyms are White supremacy [0], men can get pregnant, taking your top off at a White House event is a positive thing, etc.
[0] https://abc7news.com/sfusd-renaming-schools-board-meeting-sa...
And for what it's worth, "woke" isn't a word folks who are engaging honestly tend to use much/at all. It used to be a way to describe being socially aware of systemic oppression of minority groups in society, but now it's a derogatory term used to denigrate people who care about how others are treated.
It's not "right" or "left" that's the problem here; if someone wants to argue about laissez faire economics or how the government should wisely invest its limited resources in programs that provide greater societal returns, they're absolutely free to.
What you're seeing get "nuked from orbit" is hate speech and, "tough luck" attitudes that reduce human beings to some generalization that either isn't true, or severely overemphasized for alienating effect. The fact that one political group tends towards those arguments more than another is a symptom, not the cause.
>What you're seeing get "nuked from orbit" is hate speech and, "tough luck" attitudes that reduce human beings to some generalization that either isn't true, or severely overemphasized for alienating effect. The fact that one political group tends towards those arguments more than another is a symptom, not the cause.
You perhaps do not have much experience with discussing politics on Reddit if you think that those are the only things that Reddit mods delete.
And I have literal decades of experience on Reddit. I've been there since ~2007 (Alexis sent me some Reddit car stickers and other random swag back in '08 as part of an early promotion), and I moderated a number of these subs that are now famously getting blown up, but quit when I discovered the cabal-like hidden IRC channels where mods would shit-talk their userbase, plot ways to crush smaller subs, and generally be gigantic assholes towards people they had power over.
I personally believe mods are a net negative on Reddit, but not because they're "woke" or anything. Many are just assholes. You can be both liberal and an asshole, politics has very little to do with this situation.
But more importantly, this isn't Reddit. This is HN, and frankly I've experienced a fairly strong libertarian lean around these parts that happily comes out to converse when the topic isn't fraught with words like "woke".
>I personally believe mods are a net negative on Reddit, but not because they're "woke" or anything. Many are just assholes. You can be both liberal and an asshole, politics has very little to do with this situation.
Certainly.