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my espresso machine has software written in TCL and within the group of owners/hackers it's quite the bit of drama how much everybody regrets the original developers choice for it and his insistence it is still a good choice. personally, i value language aesthetics highly and TCL is an ugly one.

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Decent proved that they can't do a good job at software and don't really have a vision or intention to do well. The owner's proposed "fix" for TCL is a rewrite using "vanilla javascript" using little or no libraries. What?

i just don't get it, considering they are basically completely relying on unpaid labor from the community to get even the TCL app front end working. the defaults are terrible and life became so much better after the mimoja-cafe frontend came out.

Yeah, and most of the maintainers have largely quit now because of abuse from John Buckman. I think Mimoja contributes occasionally but not in a large capacity.

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