Well, I, for one, don't fucking care about third party apps (which make money mind you)
Reddit is/was my first source of real human information for a lot of stuff (since google is unusable now). And this blackout was really a pain in the ass
Reddit is/was my first source of real human information for a lot of stuff (since google is unusable now). And this blackout was really a pain in the ass
Those third party apps are central to how the entire content works, they're absolutely critical for the moderators that try valiantly to diver the tide of pure excrement of content that floods in to the various subreddits.
That content you want to be able to see would be buried and gone, or never put there in the first place if it wasn't for third party apps that are crucial to moderators doing their work. Reddit has consistently done an awful job on quality moderation tooling. They really don't seem to give a shit, and just do the absolute bare minimum. The only reason it has managed to survive in the state it is is because others have voluntarily picked up the slack and built the tooling Reddit hasn't bothered to build.
Just because you don't see it or use it doesn't mean it's not central to what you get to experience. Think bigger, beyond your direct experience and consider how that directly impacts you.
This is simply not true. I moderate several subs. 3rd party mod tools are not critical. Mods who claim this is so are really misrepresenting the issue.
Power tools for mods are nice to have for some. I make use of automod extensively. The tools reddit provides are adequate to perform moderation tasks.
Also, since I guess it needs to be said, I'm not a shill for spez. I don't like the dude, but I'm not a sock puppet. This is all winding up looking like an epic toddler tantrum from a small proportion of the higher-power mod contingent.
How big subs ? Number of subs you moderate is entirely irrelevant to the topic
I'd take that as an I dictator of a power hungry mod, not a mod passionate about the topic at hand.
But you can't algorithmically determine this. It's also my impression that a few of the biggest subs have all the same mods.
With all respect, that's something we are about to find out.
I find it hard to believe that there are so many people who think that Reddit looked at the mountain of data they have on user and mod behaviour, and API usage, and decided to do the opposite of what that data indicated as a good option.
All the internet posters making the claims you have just made are working blind. They don't have a single iota of actual data to support their conclusions.
Either way, we're about to find out.
Most of them are doing it because they get off on having a tiny bit of power.
I couldn't care less about the API or the will of capricious mods - I hope Reddit will hand the subs over to other people
Honestly, I also think that public forums such as reddit shouldn’t build up a walled garden like this and the information should be free to anyone, regardless whether they use it commercially or for research.
Stop for a second and consider: why do these problems exist, and why should they stop?
Okay, and how will that help you to not get "capricious mods"?
> and when the next ones cause problems you get rid of them too
And when those ones make problems you get rid of them again? And then again? And again? And again? And again? And again? And again? And again? And again? And again?
Are you starting to see the problem?
> Most of them are doing it because they get off on having a tiny bit of power.
Are you willfully ignoring this point, or do you really think that magically it will work out?
[citation needed]
So my question is, if Reddit kicks off all the mods from a sub you frequent often, and ask you to be the new mod, would you do it? And, if it is a busy enough subreddit, would you spend the time those people have been spending, to moderation?
For me, that would be no.
1) Reddit says mod tools will remain free on the API (as well as disability tools)
2) Other moderators in this hacker news thread say the 3rd party stuff isn't necessary anyway.
Nonsense. I mod large subs just fine using toolbox and old reddit. toolbox doesn't counter at as third party app.
It seems most mods want to mod from their phones and will no longer be able to do so.
I know these things almost always blow over, eventually, but this has been just another part of the spiral. If you think your only relationship is with your advertisers... someday the advertisers will be the last ones you have left before they too take their business elsewhere.
At least you're aware of the issues now, no?
I love how many people who seem to complain about the blackout are like "stop whining and go back to produce the content for me".
Time will tell if the deterioration of the relationship will make that content you value less likely to exist, of less quality or more inaccesible.
Google is still pretty good when I try to use it especially because I have learned some of their search functions and operators. I haven't done vanilla search since I learned them.
Bard is nice but not for everything. It always gave me the wrong answer about dates and events for the next NBA game.