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There should be another row that which of these can be included as a standalone javascript lib in html instead of requiring NPM.

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Not requiring NPM was one of my original requirements for anything on this list. All of these libraries should be available from HTML directly -- let me know or make a PR if that isn't the case.

Maybe you can add that somewhere in subtitle somehow? as it's not immediately clear

Good idea! I'll add it to the subtitle.

I looked at the first one on the list "lit" and the very first thing it says on github is to install via npm.

That's because the vast majority of the JS ecosystem installs libraries via npm.

We can't really put all of the different ways to use Lit on the front page, but we document how to use Lit from a CDN right on the getting started page: https://lit.dev/docs/getting-started/#use-bundles

If you read the documentation, you’ll find these links:

Core - https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/lit/dist@2/core/lit-core.min.js

All - https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/lit/dist@2/all/lit-all.min.js

For Lit, you can use pre-bundled versions from a CDN: https://lit.dev/docs/getting-started/#use-bundles

Which means any content would be rendered after page load, worsening performance compared to frameworks like Next.

No it doesn't, for some of these at least you can render the page server side and the reactive components become reactive a bit later on, isn't that how next would work as well? It's a blend of server side and front end interactivity right?

You can’t render server side if you only use the library in a client-side script tag.

https://htmx.org so with this, the button will be there, but clicking on it might not do something until it's been fetched

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