That said, short of preemptively having coordinated something, I don't know where else they'd organize. Particularly as I'm unaware of any real "leaders" to this movement.
Then instead of saying how bad of a look it is, perhaps lament that there isn't a better alternative to organize. A place where reddit both absolutely knows what is going on (after all, they can look at their own subs), the public can see what is going on, and where all the mods would know to go.
Seriously. This complaint is about as fruitless as complaining that a poor person isn't paying for the 12 pack of toilet paper when they only have money for the 4 pack while now knowing how they are supposed to afford the cheaper-per-roll 12 pack.
That's what the part you quoted is doing. It still looks bad, it's like organizing a boycott of Walmart and seeing the boycott leaders leaving Walmart with supplies to make placards. Maybe it was their only real option, but it looks terrible.
I feel like a lot of users have had it up to here with mod abuse too, maybe smaller subreddits with less automation would be preferable to mega reddits with bots that auto-ban you for being new to the community
The community is the content and those who post it, aka the core that ties everything everything together.
Lurkers are not part of the community, they might as well not even exist.
To say lurkers shouldnt exist is extremely reductive and callous.
> To say lurkers shouldnt exist is extremely reductive and callous.
I didn't claim that they shouldn't exist, I claimed that they are not the core of the community since they do not produce or otherwise interact with anyone else.
If a tree fell in the forest and nobody heard it, did it make a sound?
> they might as well not even exist
I guess that's technically different. But you're being extremely hostile to the make up of a community. Can only active participants be allowed to claim they are part of a community? That seems very insensitive. Im a lurker, but I feel that I am a part of many online communities. But maybe... "You don't contribute, you don't matter."
In reality lurkers (or leechers as you say) play a big role. First of all they represent the community count -- they show a realistic interest in a topic/view. They also participate in other ways like up and down (validation) voting of topics/interests, report off topic/offensive content, etc. And they play a very significant role by supporting revenue for web forums -- their eyeballs and clicks do count too.
Just because lurkers aren't visible, doesn't make them any less important to the community.
> If a tree fell in the forest and nobody heard it, did it make a sound?
Yah, because 90% of the people in the forest heard it; they just didn't make a post about it.
As a user I completely disagree.
As a user, I want to use a UI that works for me. I don't want to use a mobile website that prevents me from reading comments and forces me to use an app.
As a user, I want a service that releases quality of life fixes, not a service that says the fixes are coming for years but instead decides to release half-baked features every 6 months chasing some other feature in some other flash-in-the-pan social media service.
As a user, I want adware, low quality comments, and rule breaking comments removed from my subreddits. If the mods are upset at reddit because the mods can't effectively maintain those subreddits, then I'm upset at reddit too.
As a user, I want open APIs so I can log into different services to see better stats on my own account.
As a user, I want to see notifications that let me know when someone replied to me, not random junk notifications that I get automatically opted into.
As a user, I want to be able to edit my comments while I'm writing them and not have them unrecoverably and randomly delete mid-edit.
This wasn't just some mod revolt, this was the straw that broke the camel's back. I spent 9 years being part of a community fixing other's code and linking to my own code as examples that others can draw from. I deleted my 9-year old account 2 days ago: https://i.imgur.com/m54CBan.png