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Translation to a real world scenario:

I go to an open mic night, do a set, start getting popular. One day the club owner decides he's not going to do stamp re-entries, and everyone has to pay to get back in if they leave the club.

I get mad at this for whatever reason, and decide I'm not going to perform any more. I still turn up, but just stand on the stage in silent protest, encouraging others to do the same.

Club owner tells me to GTFO, as he ushers in the next in line.

Guys, it's not your club.

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a better analogy would be if the only reason the club still existed was your singing, and then the "club owner" who benefited from your singing, kicked you out and played audio of you singing without your permission instead, because they want the benefits of your singing without the drawbacks of dealing with you

And this is in a town with no other reasonable clubs because the rent is way too high. This was essentially the locals' last known accessible hangout spot, and a huge portion of attendees stand with the performer. All the attendees know the owner isn't breaking the law.

I realised soon after posting that it's even dumber than my example. The analogy should have been a volunteer bouncer having a falling out with the owner, and refusing to let people watch the show. I mean sure, he could do that, but it's not exactly a shocker when he hears that his services are no longer required.

nah, the corrected analogy you're responding to is better, where, after the singer joined when the club first started, and indeed made the club what it is today (and wasn't ever paid), the owner boots said singer and plays recordings of them without compensation or permission instead

after all, reddit exists because of the users the company is abusing now, and in spite of said abusers + their abuse

like, sure the abusive club owner could physically do that, but most people there, like they do here, would recognize that the owner is in the wrong

I really wish we were at the point in society where we could have an effective discussion on the definition of ownership.

You have it backwards. The Reddit thing is in the real world and the night club is just in your imagination.

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