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Like many others, I'm migrating from reddit to Lemmy. I figured it would be more fun to host a Lemmy instance myself, but I don't want to manage uptime on a VPS... and Kubernetes seemed a little too heavy for the task at hand.

So, I wrote a tool that lets you quickly create a Lemmy instance on fly.io. It's pretty naive but it will get you started and it should just work:tm:.

Note I'm not sure if this fits in fly.io's free tier. I had to up the size of the postgres database and pict-rs host to 512MB, but I anticipate it being pretty cheap at least.

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I wouldn't recommend using Lemmy. It's even worse on security than Reddit, not to mention the developer is an extreme authoritarian who is aggressive to non-authoritarian users, going so far as to ban users who speak against Stalin and friends. They've been banned from other social media, including Reddit, for hate speech and other things. This person has a history of aggressive authoritarian behavior and should not be supported.

Considering their ideology, the security flaws in Lemmy make me even more suspicious.

Worse on security in what sense?

And yeah they’re a tankie… but just don’t federate with their servers and problem solved. As far as I know their license doesn’t require adopting their political ideology to use their software.

With Reddit there does exist a long drawn out process to remove your account and all it's data. Lemmy keeps a lot of that stuff around behind the scenes, including deleted comments, usernames, and media you've uploaded.

Well yeah it’s all federated. There’s no guarantee your replicated posts will ever be deleted from every server they reach.

It’s also the Internet. Don’t say anything on it you don’t want archived forever.

> the developer is an extreme authoritarian who is aggressive to non-authoritarian users, going so far as to ban users who speak against Stalin and friends. They've been banned from other social media, including Reddit, for hate speech and other things.

Ahahaha what? I had no idea. Do you have a link where I can read more about this?

If even half of that is true, Lemmy is dead on arrival. No way a platform with that kind of origin will ever become mainstream.

It's best summed up by the comment I'll link at the bottom of this comment [1]. Notable details include:

- The link is to Raddle, an anarchist community (which uses Postmill).

- The Lemmy dev has personal beef with Ziq, a prominent and well-respected voice in the global anarchist community, and the administrator of the Raddle website.

- Lemmy dev's reasons for creating Lemmy were twofold: he (and others) was banned on Reddit for hate speech or whatever you want to call it, and he knew he wouldn't be accepted on Raddle because it's a good community (or in his words, Raddle is run by "anti-tankie scum").

- When Lemmy went live, he immediately banned people for speaking against the homophobia of Stalin, Putin, and Xi

- Lemmy dev is specifically a member of the LaRouche movement, which according to Wikipedia "has been referred to variously as Marxist, fascist, anti-Semitic, a political cult, a personality cult, and a criminal enterprise ... a far-right political movement ... one of the best private intelligence services in the world ... one of the strangest political groups in American history"

I know HN isn't supposed to be all political, but this is also a security and user-safety issue. Hope I'm not crossing the line into soapboxing here.

- [1] https://raddle.me/f/lobby/155371/-/comment/276944

> The Lemmy dev has personal beef with Ziq, a prominent and well-respected voice in the global anarchist community, and the administrator of the Raddle website.

I personally don't think this is a notable detail

I should have combined it with the details before and after it. It was more of an explanation of their motivations leading up to it, and a way to show what kind of stuff they made Lemmy to be able to post, rather than "they have personal beef and that's an important detail". But yeah you're right their personal beef isn't important.

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