I wonder if it's possible for Reddit 3rd party app devs (Apollo, etc) to rework their existing apps to use Kbin or Lemmy instead. Could be a huge undertaking. But it would be an even bigger blow to Reddit, since they can easily funnel users away.
So now for basically the rest of my life I won't be a pure Redditor and I'll always have an OSS/federated alternative to it vaguely on my radar, it's a sea change.
I mean Reddit for me psychologically has gone from an OK platform to the bad guy very quickly here and in mere days I've gone from not even knowing alternatives existed to sniffing around the edges of one. Seems like Reddit is waving around a huge footgun right now.
Edit! : I can't help but compare Twitter and Reddit to insanely successful older companies like Apple and Microsoft. Both of those companies became very successful by building the biggest moat they could, muscling out their alternatives, acquiring or commoditizing their compliments etc. Google too. Yet with Twitter and Reddit here we have two social media companies who have just said "Hey let's do very public stuff that promotes direct alternatives to our core offering." Idk what to say other than... Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Any service that supercedes whatever next, will eventually be a protocol, and future generations will consider all the iterations in-between to be, dumb.
Big Apple fan here, but I’m under no delusion that Apple will always make great products or treat their customers well. The moment they struggle to maintain growth, they will resort to the same user-hostile tactics that have enshittified the rest of the internet. That will probably happen under a different CEO, but I think it’s unavoidable in the long term.
I realized the beauty here is that i don't need to replace Lemmy, Kbin, etc. I can lean into them, and even if i don't gain traction (i probably don't want it anyway. Managing large projects are unfun), i still get to be part of the larger ecosystem.
Ie, why write a Client to Lemmy as you might with Reddit, when you can instead write a participating Server which also serves as a Client. Federation is neat like that.
Though i'm still unclear on a lot of steps with federation, so we'll see how this goes.
everything on Reddit gets archived near instantly. I don’t think expecting deletion to work on public forums online is reasonable.
For federated APIs though i tend not to think Privacy exists. "Delete me" is nice, but when it's already broadcasted to dozens of other instances it feels a bit moot. Still, worth doing right if you're going to do it at all - not sure why an instance owner would want to host everything indefinitely anyway. Storage concerns and all.
This whole conversation is making me want to take the plunge and check out ActivityPub. "It can't be that hard" lol, right?
Queue the narrator: "It was that hard".
Worse yet if this publication is in a slightly tweaked format that your software doesn't recognize.
this is talking about the developer of an AGPL 3.0 licensed software. WHAT HAS THE DEVELOPERS politics or for that matter, anything got to do with selfhosting lemmy ? isn't this problem with google or facebook yet no one seems to care about that but oh my god, its lemmy.
also, what operator is this talking about in particular because lemmy is a FEDERATED SOFTWARE. there are hundreds of active servers
I would really appreciate it.
Still, that's irrelevant because mobility is one of the main purposes of the fediverse. That is, move to Lemmy or something else like kbin, yet, you're connected and may move again later on. Transferring of one's own content is still an open issue, though.
Besides, while tildes incorporates a lot of the lessons mods learned already after the first half a dozen years of Reddit, it is not meant to scale. It's a platform for small/medium instances, not very large ones.
It's a pity, though, there is so little support for decentralization/federation just because its design is a bigger challenge. Another reason is, however, the absence of a constitutional protection of one's privacy outside one's own property. Because of that the consumers of the dominating nation in that market don't really grasp nor care about that aspect.