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You're wrong, just check it yourself: https://kbin.social/

> Checking if the site connection is secure.

Ugh. I’ll take a look for the moment but the “secure” on that page (Cloudflare-provided I think?) has filled my weekly allotment of bullshit. Never going to be a regular as long as that’s on, sorry.

(There’s a special angry place in my heart for people who continue to devalue the word “secure” in the eyes of end users.)

They are currently overloaded, already upgraded from a 16€/month server to a 67€/month one, but still having issues. Sudden influx.

If they want to grow and take on Reddit refugees there is no way they can do that if they are worrying about a $16/month server or $68/month server. They are going to require much more than that and if people are constantly waiting for content to load they will just go somewhere else; which lets be honest that means they will probably go back to Reddit.

I don't think they want to grow in that sense. And since this stuff is federated, you can use any other instance to subscribe to and interact with your subs.

I had a look around, but couldn't figure out who's paying for kbin.social / will pay for it in future.

I also didn't see any ads, so... I feel I'm missing something important here.

It’s selfhostable, this instance is paid for by the devs who quickly set up a "buy me a coffee" profile just today, but essentially people are joining faster than plans were made ;)

This is how it was on the 90s internet. Sites got hugged to death on the regular. It's how we ended up with the platforms, really, cause they had the capital to handle these surges without losing the company's house.

Edit: and there was no Patreon or any popular platform to quickly save the site.

That’s where federation is supposed to come in. The current rush is just a bit much for organic growth ;)

The CloudFlare bot-checker thing goes into an infinite loop on Firefox. Good sign the devs don't bother to test on anything but Chrome. In fairness, OpenAI does the same thing (not to mention Cloudflare itself has no excuse), so I guess it's just the world we live in, but I'm still never going to sign up for any site that does this.

This is factually false and must be a plugin on your firefox or something else. I use firefox daily to get past these screens.

You can only claim that you don't notice a problem, not that anyone else doesn't have a problem or what it's cause must or must not be.

> You can only claim that you don't notice a problem, not that anyone else doesn't have a problem or what it's cause must or must not be.

Fair.

> Good sign the devs don't bother to test on anything but Chrome.

So what do you call this then?

It's not a good sign of that?

No fact was claimed other than what something looks like or is cosistent with, and I agree with that much. I'd say it's not even controvercial, no question about it.

Are you using the Privacy Pass extension?

While it's supposed to reduce captchas and things like that, I found it to be causing some checks to fail. I disabled it and stopped having issues with CF.

Even with all extensions disabled, I regularly get stuck in CF purgatory like the GP describes. Using default Firefox (ESR) on Debian.

Yeah, CF has made Firefox horrible. :(

I happily stand corrected, thanks!

Banned by Cloudflare. I'll pass.

"403 Forbidden" He's dead, Jim.

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