It's hard to find competent suits. And their understanding of tech is reducing, I'd suspect, as tech gets more complex.

The problem is hackers reporting to suits, not non-technical people reporting to suits. There are very few software engineers that report up through Patrick, and those that are are usually in support roles for other positions (eg. quantitative finance) with significant domain knowledge of that other position. Or they report up through technical executives with their own P&L.

There're non-technical managers in other areas that manage engineers, but I don't think we've hired any since 2007, as we found it doesn't really work out that well.