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"would games use a browser" they shouldn't need to consider it but they are forced by the mafia into giving the don their cut.

"are you complaining" are you defending mafia tactics to take a house cut that's way beyond reasonable? doesn't matter if it's "poor little candy crush" or not... I'm arguing against unreasonable market force - just like I'll argue against MS's IE/Edge bundling and Google forcing their platform.

Your deflections just show that you know I'm making a point - androids "piss poor hardware" has nothing to do with Apple using mafia tactics to gouge their customers.

Web Apps and Electron shouldn't be needed - companies should be able to use alternative payment methods. They also shouldn't be tied to shitty webkit with it's outdated, insecure and lackluster implementation.

and "safari wins benchmarks" is a lie - unless you're talking about the furthest behind and most insecure.

https://www.wired.com/story/safari-flaws-webcam-online-accou...

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2531350/apple-s-safari...

But don't let facts get in the way of the stock in Apple you own...

What does two articles about security flaws have to do with which browser is the fastest - ie “wins benchmarks”? And what does your ranting about the App Store have to do with an article about a web browser? Apple patched the flaw over a year ago are you claiming that Android has no security flaws?

Do you really want to die on the hill of how far back Apple supports devices with security updates compared to Google? (Hint: Apple released a patch for the iPhone 5s that was released in 2013 earlier this year)

The “mafia tactics” is the same percentage that Google takes and the same percentage the same game makers pay on Google.

Again, the article is about “web browsers”. Even if the Firefox engine or a third party engine were allowed on iOS - it would have no effect on the vast majority of App Store revenue since it comes from games.

"what's it have to do with" fastest is not best when it's the most insecure and furthest behind - to the point that it's holding back the internet like IE was back in the day. the fastest piece of shit car is still a piece of shit car.

"support" more support of an insecure, antiquated and unsafe browser is still support of a bad browser.

"same % as google" google does it because Apple did it and didn't get blocked. AKA: price fixing and market collusion. both should be blocked from it.

"it would have no effect" you are saying that alternatives wouldn't affect the price? You're full of...

competition would absolutely affect prices and alternatives would absolutely give real competition.

just because Apple supports the 5s with a shitty and limited browser that's faster but still hamstrung (your attempted points about Saint Apple and the Holy Safari) ... that doesn't change the fact that competition would lower prices as that 80% would absolutely be cut into by a massive number of companies that don't want to give the mafia a 30% cut.

Watch how those numbers change as Apple is FORCED to allow alternatives to their shitty options and their mafia tactics are countered.

https://mashable.com/article/apple-allow-third-party-app-sto...

"Apple will allow third-party app stores, because the EU is playing hardball Is this the end of the 30-percent App Store commission?"

> what's it have to do with" fastest is not best when it's the most insecure

So it’s the “most insecure” because you found two security issues that were patched? Other browsers never had security issues?

But you’re going back on your original statement that it isn’t the fastest.

> support" more support of an insecure, antiquated and unsafe browser is still support of a bad browser.

And it’s “bad” even though the competing browser on Android - Chrome - is slower, doesn’t support plug ins, and is by definition less secure since Google drops support for old phones?

> same % as google" google does it because Apple did it and didn't get blocked. AKA: price fixing and market collusion. both should be blocked from it.

Now it’s Apple’s fault that Google also charges 30% as well as the console makers?

> it would have no effect" you are saying that alternatives wouldn't affect the price? You're full of...

How would alternative browsers affect the price of apps that would never be in the browser? Another point is that there are alternatives on Android and Google still charges 30%. How did going outside of the Google Play Store workout for Epic?

> just because Apple supports the 5s with a shitty and limited browser that's faster but still hamstrung (your attempted points about Saint Apple and the Holy Safari) ... that doesn't change the fact that competition would lower prices as that 80% would absolutely be cut into by a massive number of companies that don't want to give the mafia a 30% cut.

Yet it doesn’t cause lower prices on Android…

> Apple will allow third-party app stores, because the EU is playing hardball Is this the end of the 30-percent App Store commission?"

And yet Apple didn’t announce anything at WWDC….

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