Reddit announces plan to lay off 90 workers as subreddits plan mass protest
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Unless things have changed since I left, it is just a highly efficient machine for shoveling investor money into the cloud furnace. I love Reddit to death and would go back in a heartbeat to fix it, but everything is just plastered in "don't touch my garbage" stickers.
(Quick edit to add before the comments come rolling in, Netflix runs its business on the cloud - the expensive parts of pushing Stranger Things episodes into your living room run on real servers)
I wonder why Reddit would want to charge consumers of its API, without providing any premium services like let's say, Twilio etc. Reddit must focus on monetizing its content and more strategization that will bring in more ad-revenue or user-generated monetary value rather than going after 3rd party API consumers that ended up doing a much better job of building a simple front end app for their content.
It's not just product recommendations, things like book recommendations, career advice, scientific/academic questions. Reddit has answers to these kinds of questions that are very difficult to find elsewhere.
Plus as you grow you need infrastructure to support your much larger employee base (everything from dev tools to HR).
Looks like their valuation has also grown in that time, from about 400 million 10 years ago to 10 billion in 2021 - not sure they have had a funding round since then but Fidelity recently cut their Reddit shares by 41% value, which would still put them at 5-6 billion. That's still a 10x+ return over 10 years.
Having only 20 employees might sound desirable on paper, but you simply cannot do with 20 employees what you can do with a larger company. Having only a couple people responsible for an entire region of ad sales is not scalable in the slightest.
Reddit has historically had an abysmal ARPU and part of that was because a sheer lack of people able to support the ad business. Reddit is now almost able to break even when I don't think they have ever previously been profitable (even with 20 employees).
Google has a completely automated ad sales system for even mid-size companies (~$100k/year ad spend) from what I understand.
They added value for the shareholders, not for us.
Reddit has one of the best awards and paid tier plans in the world for a discussion board, yet they still couldn’t break even with it.
You might love things that are free, but don’t expect them to last forever then. Nothing is free.
Reddit as we knew it is on life support. We see them phasing out third party apps, they already removed np.reddit.com, and undoubtedly old.reddit.com will be next. Once they go public there is no turning back, and their decisions will be solely powered by investor greed.
There is no value in a Reddit that doesn’t cater to the users.
As far as finding value in the new website, I think it’s way better except for the ways that they purposefully degrade the experience in order to push you to their native apps.
I know this is corp-speak, but it still such a horrible messaging. "We are doing great, but we're still going to fire people just to please our shareholders."
Love the tone-deaf, shallow corporatespeak from the top as per usual.
(I signed up to the https://feddit.de/ instance, but you could use https://beehaw.org/ as well, makes no difference where you sign up)
More and more people are leaving Reddit for lemmy...and the more people migrate, the better.
I went through the Digg exodus and have now left Reddit completely and don't miss it.
If I need to read about a product, I'll still type "site:reddit.com" into google and hope that my old.reddit.com extension works for the forseeable future, but that will be the entirety of my interactions with Reddit until Lemmy replaces that as well.
I’ve been on lemmy for a couple days. I’m still very unsure about it. It’s not the technical changes of being federated, those didn’t take too much effort even for me with no experience with mastodon etc.
It’s more the underlying politics that are jarring. The lead dev uses Castro as his picture and the other founder has mao on his personal page masthead. There’s a VERY prevalent anti western sentiment and even reccomending things like podcasts that use western viewpoints are downvoted hard. And I haven’t even been to their “communist” instance.
The read I get is it’s got a lot of communism/socialism ideologues that have never lived under the thumb of the regimes they are advocating.
Even on some of the inclusive specific ideas instances like beehaw, a prevalent reasoning is if your instance doesn’t defederate/block other instances unaligned with xyz, it means you aren’t dedicated to making a safe space and thus should be defederated too. It’s a dangerous game if that plays out on the larger more popular instances.
It just feels off and as if I’m an outsider or unwelcome at best. Unsure if I will stick around. It’s not nearly same as the early Reddit days and especially the pre-digg migrations (and there were a couple)
I also made sure to register to one that doesn’t profess any political leaning. But still, unsure given the overall vibe.
The Swastika and the Hammer and Sickle both represent bankrupt ideologies. I would use a Communist website just as soon as I would use a Nazi website.
I assume that's not going to be a popular opinion on the modern internet though.
Its when it becomes a core portion of your identity and you are throwing it others faces or using it as a pedestal for elitism that it rubs me wrong. And that is the feeling I get on that site. Heck they even had a thread on the very topic the other day [1]
Again I am not saying its bad. Just it gives a very weird vibe and it will depend on how the new users play into that and affect it.
This is awesome. Thanks for putting it together.
Edit: One more. Is it possible to differentiate subs that have said "we're going to go private for 2 days" and "we're shutting down permanently unless changes are made"? IIRC /r/music isn't planning on coming back.
Same for me_irl I believe.
[1] https://github.com/xNul/save-3rd-party-apps/wiki/List-of-Per...
The 'official' list of sites going dark is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/
That subreddit is also where mods and devs are discussing the situation. A recent post covers a call held between representatives of Reddit and the dev community.
I am a mod on two subs (both > 500K subscribers and they are going dark) and they're not listed.