I'm sure there must be some back story here. What are these people's concerns? They seem to believe that HN is a bastion for harassment. Of all the forums I read, this seems the most benign by a large margin.
I made a similar point related to all the comments I see about "Well, it's well known that HN hates crypto..." No, I don't "hate crypto", I've done a rational assessment of it, and I'm not willing to buy whatever snake oil is being sold this week. You can reasonably disagree with my assessment, but I see this all the time where people try to say "HN hates crypto..." because we're all just emotional, or my other favorite, that we just missed out on the early boom and are bitter we didn't get rich.
Which is surprising to me too, because the comments I've seen on every Asahi Linux post have been pretty overwhelmingly positive and impressed by their progress. Was there some drama that I missed?
Or maybe they're complaining about some non-Asahi related comment threads, but I have no idea what.
That and in the beginning there were a lot of very negative "they didn't really write that. someone else must have done the hard work for them" type comments as well.
So as a response the team wanted to just stop their stuff from showing up on HN but then the noreferrer thing happened and now we are here.
I just naturally assumed that to be the case after doing a search on "Asahi Linux" as I knew nothing about that project.
At this point he should probably just own it if it is indeed him.
Because I'm not directly emotionally involved I can make the following response:
> he should probably just own it if it is indeed him
Well, maybe, but consider that he may just not want to. That should be respected.
> listing virtual avatars as members is strange
Not at all, really. Publishing under a pseudonym is the norm rather than the exception online, so is having multiple of them. Multiple on the same project may be unusual, but so what. They can do whatever the hell they want.
I agree on your other points and believe that a clear "we will leave this question open and would like you to stop wondering about it" would go further towards the goal than what's currently happening.
"using your real name" was changed to "using a known identity". And from the commit message:
> And despite the language, we've always accepted nicknames and that language was never meant to be any kind of exclusionary wording. [...] Just simplify the wording to the point where it shouldn't be causing unnecessary angst and pain, or scare away people who go by preferred naming.
One way or the other I'm going to continue not caring who Asahi Lina is.
One example: HNers tend to approach topics as if they have a solid grasp on the context of a matter, and are often negative, hence dang's plea against 'middlebrow dismissal.'
Another example: the common practice of leading rebuttals to a comment with "No. \n" While that's OK here, there are a lot of people who would qualify that as "really fucking annoying."
HN culture leaks onto sites that get linked to by it, and fairly enough, not everybody is down with that.
There's also a pretty hard bias in what is considered political and what is not. When I happen to disclose my identity (which is considered very political, apparently), even if it is topical, I roll dice on having that comment be purged to hell no matter the value of the contribution. Depends a bit on the time of day, even.
For example, often HN users need to scold their readers into a hair-splitting debate around semantics.
The other one I’ve seen is pretend-gaslighting-as-begging-the-question:
“Can we all stop pretending that object-oriented programming is an efficient way to build software?”
;)
I tend to agree with you (finding the leading No\n grating when it's used as a "well actually" replacement) but ime its sometimes used by people from cultural backgrounds where the standard for communication is more direct than what the English-speaking world is used to, and not intended to come across as smug or know-it-all, and I don't mind it as much in those cases.
Take a moderator action at the time and not a month later?
/s of course
I would like to know the backstory, since this made the front page though.