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There's a simple, rational explanation: The man needs to make a living. Lectures, documentaries, a book.

> He left the government in April after a 14-year career in US intelligence.

A government pension requires 20 years IIRC. Grusch is only 36.

The formula: Tell the truth where possible, be vague but suggestive about the rest.

And of course there were secret UFO programs -- if something from Baikonur shows up here, wouldn't it be better if the Kremlin thought it might still remain secret? So sensing, reporting, collecting efforts would be classified.

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My mom would 100% buy anything this guys says. It's a clever business idea.

Especially with all of those recent flaky gov videos people are eating up wholesale, without any concept of what it actually means to do interstellar travel while simultaneously having invisible motherships. And the only 'evidence' comes from US pilots in a particular height in the sky, never on the ground or visible in space via telescopes... Curious how that works. Just spacecraft zipping around at 30k feet all day in random directions and never going visibly above or below that.

Some guy misinterpreting documents about foreign or unknown materials or objects is probably par for the course here. It's also funny/predictable aliens would be discovered exclusively in the US and withheld from Congress by black suits.

The New York Times is said to have an article in the works for sunday, providing more background presumably.

Funny, how HN is/isn't reacting to "US in possession of non-human technology".

From the comments, you desperately want to believe in this non-human thing for whatever reasons. No one else believes that is actually true. So far, your arguments are that Grusch is telling the truth and no one is listening to him. You have ignored all the contrary evidence including the fact there is nothing documented, he has repeated what someone has said to him and that our sensors and our senses are not infallible.

Why do you think non-human tech exists?

The better question is why do they still believe yet another indirect claim by an alleged single “reputable” human source when every single time it turns out to be a big nothing. History is littered with examples.

If they can’t grasp the obvious pattern here and determine that it requires far, far more than some random guy claiming some agency is lying to the rest of the entire US gov then there’s probably not much to dig into with OP. The rationale is always paper thin deep borderline conspiracy stuff aka “I’m just asking questions” and any further you find a poor (or unwilling) grasp of science and a naive perspective on how the world/governments work.

Surely this time is different. All the movie stereotypes about hidden black alien programs always-US run were really true!

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