So do you think the police were being lame by taking out Micah Xavier Johnson with a remote controlled vehicle, rather than breaching his position personally?
So do you think the police were being lame by taking out Micah Xavier Johnson with a remote controlled vehicle, rather than breaching his position personally?
It's important to differentiate being brave enough to put yourself in harm's way vs. glorifying violence. Policing requires the first one, not the second. Unfortunately, while the latter is seen often in officers, Uvalde showed us that the former may not be.
and speaking for myself, yes, very much so, that domestic drone killing was a dark day for the country and a harbinger of things to come
I'll admit I can't really understand that logic.
given that Micah was cornered, they could have also waited, perhaps even negotiated (they did, after all, trick him by saying their suicide drone was actually carrying a phone to negotiate), but neither of those options makes a big cool boom or sates bloodlust
anyways, any bully can pick up a gun and boss around non-threats while being paid handsomely and enjoying legal immunity for nearly anything they do
it is far better for cops to do their jobs, even if they're scared, even if they die, than to set a precedent of extrajudicial domestic drone killing of suspects. that's why they get paid more than burger flippers.
I honestly can't understand the opposite logic: that precedent is horrible
It wasn't necessary, because they had an alternative way to accomplish the goal.
> like they signed up to do
Cops don't sign up to risk their lives. They sign up to help police their community. They are sometimes called upon to risk their lives, but that doesn't mean they should risk their lives when alternatives are available.
It's not an extrajudicial killing if the dude is actively murdering people from a window. Police, or really any random person, are well with the rule of law to kill that person without getting the okay from a judge.
having an alternative way to accomplish the goal is not good enough if the result is the precedent set of extrajudicial drone killings of suspects by police
put simply, the ends don't justify the means
> Cops don't sign up to risk their lives
yes, they do. It's part of the job, and part of why they get paid so much, and part of why they expect to be viewed as heroes, despite the litany of lower-paid, more-dangerous professions which are not
you don't sign up for the secret service if you won't jump in front of a bullet for the president, and you don't sign up for the police if you won't jump in front of a bullet for a child in a school shooting (hence why the Uvalde police have been shamed)
> It's not an extrajudicial killing if the dude is actively murdering people from a window.
he was cornered, unable to shoot anybody, as was previously mentioned, when the police sent their suicide bomber bot in, so yes, extrajudicial killing.
was it because the police liked explosions? was it because they wanted blood for someone who killed another officer? was it because they were too lazy to negotiate? was it because they were too impatient to besiege him? was it because they were too cowardly to confront him? ultimately it doesn't matter, it was an extrajudicial killing, and a terrible precedent