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> The mentioned Baikal company is a supplier for russian army. The guy behind the patch every morning go to the work, knowing his job will help to launch the missiles to the Ukrainian cities killing children.

Given that the bombardment of east Ukraine preceded the 24.02.22 (by a few years), I hope you have the same standard for Ukrainians then.

> What is happening here is whitewashing a genocide machine many of russians are part of

"genocide" by Ukrainians is okay tho? Because you're very specific here that it only applies to Russians here while ignoring (and therefore whitewashing) Ukrainian acts of war that precede 24.02.22 against their own population.

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I'm from east Ukraine. Don't even try to tell me

> "genocide" by Ukrainians is okay tho? Because you're very specific here that it only applies to Russians here while ignoring (and therefore whitewashing) Ukrainian acts of war that precede 24.02.22 against their own population.

There was no genocide by Ukrainians in Donbass, this Russian propaganda has been a persistent narrative that has any had a single word of truth to it.

365 civilians had died in the Donbas conflict between 2016-2022.

8,400 civilians have died in the war in Ukraine in ~1.5 years bits been happening.

> There was no genocide by Ukrainians in Donbass, this Russian propaganda has been a persistent narrative that has any had a single word of truth to it.

I used double-quotes, mostly because both sides claim a genocide. It's clear that both are at war. A dirty fact of war is that civilians are going to die in the war and both sides are going to lie about every aspect of the war. That is not different this time and we ("the west") are not a neutral observer.

This war feels forced especially with the western interference in the coup-d'état that led to the banishment of Yanukovych. The western narratives surrounding it make no sense at all, but we can probably agree that an elected government was replaced by a movement funded by EU and helped by the US.

We ("the west") forgot the value of peace I think or respectively what war entails.

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