Part of the reason was Rust's desire to show itself as a direct competitor w.r.t performance, I think.
Part of the reason was Rust's desire to show itself as a direct competitor w.r.t performance, I think.
Say you use a vector in C++. You push one element and pop two. In Rust that's a None. In C++ the answer is UB (in my case 43).
That prioritisation applies to the whole ISO language, not only to the standard library.
What I'm talking about is that Rust's Option is very cheap in all the cases where it can be very cheap, which makes this whole design feature more affordable. C++ eventually grew std::optional which is not powerful enough for this work and yet is also bigger and slower. They could have done better, but safety wasn't a priority.
Unlike C, which the only way to be safe is not to touch it at all.
As for performance, ISO doesn't implement compilers, there are many ways to improve performance while keeping the semantics in line with the standard.
If the compiler vendors decide to focus elsewhere is another matter, a bit like there are languages as complex as Rust and compile faster, because that has been a concern, whereas rustc developers have their concerns elsewhere.
Even your dynamic example won't tell me calling pop/push x/y times respectively will fail if x > y.
I have to trigger it somehow.
I haven't written the Language of Kings in a while: does GCC -Wall truly enable all warnings yet?
clang has a -Weverything and it isn't supported.
The argument is that Rust forces you and in C++ you can forget/the compiler can do what it wants
It's like Yaml parsers, they had "load_yaml" which is unsafe and "safe_load_yaml" which is the secure option. Imagine no surprise when Rubyists went for shorter safe looking method and got their servers pwned.
Depends what you mean by explicit.
Look at it like this:
pub fn main() {
let mut vec : Vec<i32> = vec![];
let x = vec.pop();
println!("{:?}",x); // prints: None
}
In this case you see the value is missing. vec.pop().expect("I want a value")
will panic with "I want a value" because value is empty. And most rigorous way to deal with it is: if let Some(x) = vec.pop() {
println!("{:?}",x);
} else {
println!("EMPTY"); // prints: Empty
}
will either print value or EMPTY depending on what the vector contains.Types like Result will issue warning that you didn't handle the cases.
I looked at your example and played a bit with it and yes I agree with you - compiler does help in this case.
My old text:
So instead of checking if vector is not empty you check that the return result is not empty. I do not see much difference. If Rust compiler would choke when "else" clause in your example is not present I would understand your point about compiler preventing improper access.
> If Rust compiler would choke when "else" clause in your example is not present
The compiler won't choke, but it will stop you from accessing the value.
It doesn't matter if you omit the `else` clause or not, the type system ensures that you can't access invalid values.
Here's a bit of an example based off of @Ygg2's code: https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&editio...
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Rust does that with the combination of "sum types" (aka "enums with data") and pattern matching. An `Option<T>` is either `Some(T)` or `None`. Matching on an option with the pattern `Some(value)` creates a new syntactic scope where the value is accessible. This scope is only entered if the `Option` is actually non-empty.
All ways of getting the value from the option are ultimately shorthand for a match in that way. For example, option.unwrap() will either get the value if it there, or panic. Option.unwrap_or(x) will either get the value of it there, or use x instead.
In practice this is x100 less error prone than C++. Source: was burned by vector.front() on empty vectors more than once. In C++, UB. In rust, usually the "empty case" is considered when first writing the code, or at least caught during review (unwraps tend to be very visible in reviews)
I'm not a C++ expert but here is my understanding. Vector is essentially a tuple of (dynamic_array_address: ptr, size: size_t, capacity: size_t). To pop a value from vector you just decrements size. So what happens when you have empty vec? Your size is 0, and you're substracing 1, which causes undefined behavior.
Correct way is to check BEFORE you pop_back().
In Rust, any number of invocation of pop() will not result in undefined behavior. You can ignore the value, or you can check it, but it doesn't expose you to UB just for slightly misusing a vector.
Absolutely and this is exactly what I do. I always check the containers before removing elements.
>"In Rust, any number of invocation of pop() will not result in undefined behavior. You can ignore the value, or you can check it, but it doesn't expose you to UB just for slightly misusing a vector."
I do not understand "slightly misusing" part. I assume in Rust it would bomb if pop() returns "none" and you try for example add said "none" to some number.
That's the thing. It wouldn't. Worse you can do is make whole program panic, with well defined stack trace and message.
It will never return non-sense and pretend all is ok.
https://godbolt.org/z/vYcMhE9h7
> Error: attempt to access an element in an empty container.
It is also what attracted me into C++ coming from Turbo Pascal and Turbo Basic, back in the early 1990's.
Although C++ culture could be much better towards safety, it is definitely better than whatever WG14 is doing, or C has brought into the picture for the last 50 years.
Also anyone that just copy pastes C like code into C++, is the kind of developer that will be using unsafe{} all over the place, on the languages that have them.
C developers like telling themselves that only people with bounded rationality make security critical mistakes. All the skilled C developers have ascended beyond the mortal realm and would never let themselves be chained up with crutches for the weak like affine types or overflow/bounds checking.
Yes you could. But I do not think " cultural" is the right term for not putting all your code in an `unsafe` block
It's not. It's a safety phenomenon. See Java, C# etc.
Java doesn't have huge focus on it, but managed to get it right.
As for your dynamic arguments request, have fun,
In a runtime example I can run it with tests and it would behave fine if both values are same or first arg is bigger, in Rust's case it would behave valid for ANY combination of arguments.
Coming from Java the C++ stuff is jarringly unsafe.
Still, if you want to contribute to OpenJDK internals, they will only be taking pull requests in C++, not Rust.
So better learn how to build those seatbelts and airbags, for all the projects we rely on, including Rust's own reference implementation, that aren't going to rewrite their code from C++ into something else.