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> It is still likely to have the biggest disadvantage of the Quest 2, which was the mandatory Facebook/Meta/Horizon Worlds stuff and the absolute headache that came from their account migration/connection shenanigans.

The Facebook account thing ended in August 2022. https://about.fb.com/news/2022/07/meta-accounts-and-horizon-...

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You still have to have a Meta account, which to many people (including me) is essentially the same thing. No thanks.

There's no real name requirement for a Meta account, so it's not at all the same thing. You can tie it to a throwaway email and use a fake name.

Not entirely accurate. Facebook has locked me out of my pseudonym account and is requiring I upload a government ID to gain entry again.

Thankfully it was not used for anything other than chatting with people in certain communities and I have other Facebook accounts that are also pseudonyms, but Facebook can and will sometimes require verification of an account.

Are you talking about a Meta account or a Facebook account?

Yes, for Facebook accounts they require a real name.

That’s not the case for Meta accounts which are a completely separate thing. I agree it’s confusing.

But it's still the same company. No thanks. Facebook cannot be trusted.

And I’m sure you’ll be able to pay for games & apps using a totally anonymous payment method, right?

Sideload your apps, or use WebXR apps in the browser.

One of the nice things about the Quest is you can still tether it to your computer, and it does the tethering over Wifi so there are no pesky cables in the way. App support for Quest controllers on the PC side is sometimes spotty, but I've had pretty decent luck. This is where being cheap is a real advantage, lots of developers include Quest support because they are so popular. There are advantages to being on the most common system. I've gotten a bunch of VR games out of Humble Bundles that are installed on Steam and stream to the Quest 2 no problem.

This is a different set of goalposts than the claim I was responding to.

The account management is still breathtakingly complex and confusing. The switchover in August '22 was a nightmare. I'm sure there are still people who are locked out of their headsets because they couldn't figure it out. And this is on top of the mess they created when they forced the Facebook account integration.

It's worse than the Mojang->Microsoft account mess, and that's saying something.

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